Thread: new Science investigations about Moa diet and their influence on the NZ Forests

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I have always been interested in Falconry, a pet Haasts Eagle would carry some bragging rights.

You would have to make sure it was well fed and I wouldn't let it sit on your shoulder.
Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by berg243

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Kiwi Fried Moa

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I have always been interested in Falconry, a pet Haasts Eagle would carry some bragging rights.

I had the honour of flying a Russian Steppe eagle one time. It was something I wont forget in a hurry.

The owner/trainer told me after the event, that I was the only person to ever handle her (Gypsy), other than himself, and he was impressed with how she behaved.....

Originally Posted by kbrebs

Yup and thats the big hole in my argument, there could have been plenty of other factors that led to Moa's extinction, Ill never know the whole story thats for sure.
I just think it discredits hunters when they choose to jump on claims like this to try and justify the damage that deer do to the bush in NZ when left unchecked. There is definitely an equilibrium where both deer and the bush can be healthy and thrive but its probably far lower densities than the modern hunter who is used to high numbers would prefer.

If you join the greens, that hole in your argument would be filled in 5 mins?

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

I have always been interested in Falconry, a pet Haasts Eagle would carry some bragging rights.

You’ve be watching Game of Thrones?

Originally Posted by canross

I see that emus have been turned down as total replacements for all species of moa (I have noticed that every report focuses on the fact they can't replace all of them, but mostly avoid whether they can replace some of them), but if I were suddenly flush and had a large lifestyle block of native bush, I'd probably deer fence it and stick some emus in there just to see what happened.

There's emu in the pine forests north kaitaia. They were released after a local exotic game park went broke.

Originally Posted by Bill999

I see they are cloning cats and dogs now in america for around 40k for a cat and 80k for a dog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am4-wFnj_E4

surely there would be a bit of DNA floating NZ in a museam somewhere that was still viable, I mean im no DNAoligist and should probably stay in my lane but there will be a point when we can bring back anything we want, the question is do we really want moa back? or do we let the dead be dead
what good is a big dumb chicken really

I take it you have never watched the movie Jurassic park????

A good storm like "Bola" does more bush damage than deer do in 100 years. Forgot, this has only happened since "climate change"

Pretty sure "climate change" wasnt invented when "bola" went through.
Guess thats your point.

Originally Posted by nevereadyfreddy

Pretty sure "climate change" wasnt invented when "bola" went through.
Guess thats your point.

"Climate change" started in the 1970's under another name, if you look back at the original claims we would be under water by 2000 plus run out of crude oil. They change the name when it suits, but their "agenda" follows the same pattern.

Im under the assumption that doc would never allow us to hunt something thats endemic and at risk of going back extinct. In my mind they would never be able to be hunted, ever

having them in the bush and not being able to hunt them would make them a liability if you have been face to face with a hormonal ostrich male Im sure it would be similar but without the fence to protect you, I was told by a farmer once one tried kick him and snapped a post off at the ground, another farmer he knew had his guts scragged and his guts fell out

Iv seen an emu south of the mungamuka gorge across a fence from me while out pig hunting on private land
I cant believe any of the reasons the people i hunt with tell me with the amount of bullshit that gets spun into "funny stories"

these are the stories you tell young children tho, I cant say he wasn't just trying to get the shit head kids next door to leave his (Ostrich)stock alone

Originally Posted by tetawa

"Climate change" started in the 1970's under another name, if you look back at the original claims we would be under water by 2000 plus run out of crude oil. They change the name when it suits, but their "agenda" follows the same pattern.

Haha I remember "peak oil" - where are those lying fuckers now?

Theyre part of our farkin goverment.

I remember reading of an incident in fiordland where a deer recovery crew stated they'd spotted a moa.the japanese being the eager wee beavers they were,furiously dispatched a TV crew to film this rare and exotic wildlife.
however
arriving at the site of the so called sighting they found a moa
a childs plastic mower hanging from a tree branch.!!

another case was on the coast IIRC around the time of Paddy Freanies sighting. a local at kumara decided to take the proverbial .so grabbing a little sheep shite ,lawn clippings and vegetation he hand rolled some moa poop .out to his shed and lo and behold a set of moa feet emerged .
a very secret trip to the taramakau riverbed to "plant the evidence "and ya guessed it the media swallowed the story hook line and sinker!
actually speaking of Paddy Freaney around that time too my younger brother owned the Fat Ladies Arms pub in palmy north ,and he ran a competition which ended with him bringing a bus load of massey students down home to the coast to moa hunt .
the "Press" did an article on LJ outside the Blackball Hlton as he spun them a yarn how his training as an altar boy at St Pats in greymouth was equivalent to Paddies Brit SAS traing ,and also as a duck shooter(no longer)hed been tutored in the mating call of the greater westcoast moa.!
It was a complete load of the proverbial but the reporter soaked it up like a bottle of gin!

Today if you travel sh73 CHCH-Greymouth you will see Paddy Freaneys moa and its child outside the Bealey Pub looking folorn as the search for their pet irishman.
theres also a pair in the paddock just as you leave otira heading to jacksons.