Thread: All terrain tyres

Had mtz’s on my hilux and they are a great tyre on and off road. Wear down pretty quick but they all do.

Originally Posted by JoshC

Just dropped a bit over $2k on a set of Mickey Thompson Baja MTZ P3s in 285/70r17 for the 100 series. Got 67,000km out of my Achilles MT's, on average they're three quarters worn, so slippery tracks are slippery-er. Had a couple slides on wet roads recently and they're showing signs of wear and tear from off road work, plus we're heading well into winter, so time for a change. Only about $500 extra for a set of Mickey's and with the awesome reviews and expected kms I should get from them it'll be interesting to see if that extra money is justified. Was going to go for their ATZ, which is a chunky tyre itself, but the MTZ is pretty darn sexy (and I do enough climbing around steep muddy tracks at this time of year to justify them)

they are a horny looking tyre those p3's....i like the mickey thompson lineup , bit of a shame i cant get my hands on them but them the breaks when you're the cooper people around town.
How did you find the Achilles? put a set on a mate and he reckons they are deadly in the wet

Originally Posted by madmaori

they are a horny looking tyre those p3's....i like the mickey thompson lineup , bit of a shame i cant get my hands on them but them the breaks when you're the cooper people around town.
How did you find the Achilles? put a set on a mate and he reckons they are deadly in the wet

I liked the Achilles, awesome off road tyre. They lasted better than I thought they would. I do up to 70,000 kms a year, and the bulk of my higher kms are through winter actually, so roads can be slippery, icy, wet, snowy etc. But, I am running them on a Landcruiser which is full time four wheel drive which would make a big difference. They were loud on the highway (doesn't worry me) and you could feel a fair bit of vibration around town at slower speeds due to their chunkiness and squarer pattern.

Ive just bought a set off, BF Goodrich AT KO2, in 265/75 R16 for my chev diesel, Bit curious as to what they are worth in New Zealand, (que MadMaori)
$265 Cad, fitted, 5% gst on top.
thus far they seam to be pretty good, at least in the mud, on the mine sight, better than previous wranglers. I swap to studded coopers in the winter, so summer tyres last me ages.

Had the 265/70 R17 and they were good, around $400 nzd each four years ago.

Originally Posted by southernman

Ive just bought a set off, BF Goodrich AT KO2, in 265/75 R16 for my chev diesel, Bit curious as to what they are worth in New Zealand, (que MadMaori)
$265 Cad, fitted, 5% gst on top.
thus far they seam to be pretty good, at least in the mud, on the mine sight, better than previous wranglers. I swap to studded coopers in the winter, so summer tyres last me ages.

that tyre over here you would be looking at around $365 fitted and inclusive....some shops you would be looking at more though , if you were just to walk through my doors thats what you would pay

Originally Posted by madmaori

that tyre over here you would be looking at around $365 fitted and inclusive....some shops you would be looking at more though , if you were just to walk through my doors thats what you would pay

Thanks, that's liveable, 7mm WSM's reply had me concerned, the price you pay, for mags and bigger rim's is painful at times.

Originally Posted by southernman

Thanks, that's liveable, 7mm WSM's reply had me concerned, the price you pay, for mags and bigger rim's is painful at times.

I think the massive difference in price for the Goodrich we see above ties in with what I was saying earlier about needing to be a bit of a hard nose bastard when shopping around.

We used a Cross Country rental Hilux for 6 months last year, it came with rubbish Bridgestone ATs and we needed a premium new MTs to get into the project areas, so we did a deal with Cross Country that we’d buy the tyres through their supplier and pay a millimetres of tread based price at the end of lease.

Well we were quoted insane numbers by the fleet supplier, eye wateringly expensive and I just said ‘no’, don’t know whether he thought I was a fool or what anyway we bought the exact same tyre from a local supplier at 72% of first quote (I just checked the file from that job.... that’s a saving of almost a grand on the set).

There’s also another issue in play, and that is IMO a lot of guys are running rims and tyre combos that are unnecessarily large, and commensurately more expensive. There aren’t that many applications where you need very tall tyres, which also come with the need to regear diffs if you want to get the best out of your truck.

There’s no doubt @madmaori / brad is very competitive and we should support that wherever possible. Talking of which Brad I’ve got some more ideas re my Surf tyres I’ll be in touch about at some point.

Originally Posted by Flyblown

I think the massive difference in price for the Goodrich we see above ties in with what I was saying earlier about needing to be a bit of a hard nose bastard when shopping around.

We used a Cross Country rental Hilux for 6 months last year, it came with rubbish Bridgestone ATs and we needed a premium new MTs to get into the project areas, so we did a deal with Cross Country that we’d buy the tyres through their supplier and pay a millimetres of tread based price at the end of lease.

Well we were quoted insane numbers by the fleet supplier, eye wateringly expensive and I just said ‘no’, don’t know whether he thought I was a fool or what anyway we bought the exact same tyre from a local supplier at 72% of first quote (I just checked the file from that job.... that’s a saving of almost a grand on the set).

There’s also another issue in play, and that is IMO a lot of guys are running rims and tyre combos that are unnecessarily large, and commensurately more expensive. There aren’t that many applications where you need very tall tyres, which also come with the need to regear diffs if you want to get the best out of your truck.

There’s no doubt @madmaori / brad is very competitive and we should support that wherever possible. Talking of which Brad I’ve got some more ideas re my Surf tyres I’ll be in touch about at some point.

Didn't you know that if you run with bigger rims and tyres then the bigger ya weka is?!
Yea i believe that a lot of people put unnecessary fitments on their vehicle for the type of driving that they are doing , i can only offer them my honest advice about what they need and if they don't want to listen then that's their call.......tried to talk a mate out of putting muds on his ute a few weeks back because he doesn't need them......guess who he rang when he went through his first heavy downpour of rain on a roadtrip?!!

Originally Posted by madmaori

Didn't you know that if you run with bigger rims and tyres then the bigger ya weka is?!
Yea i believe that a lot of people put unnecessary fitments on their vehicle for the type of driving that they are doing , i can only offer them my honest advice about what they need and if they don't want to listen then that's their call.......tried to talk a mate out of putting muds on his ute a few weeks back because he doesn't need them......guess who he rang when he went through his first heavy downpour of rain on a roadtrip?!!

Chunky mud tyres on 22 inch rims is what really cracks me up!

36/12.5/16 simex centipede, best AT tyre you can buy

Good tyres alright. Have run the silverstone version of these on my spray truck, 31/10.5/16. Amazing grip , had a few cockys wanting out after one round of a paddock D
Not the best mileage onroad though. Chew a set out in 15000k.

Originally Posted by JoshC

Chunky mud tyres on 22 inch rims is what really cracks me up!

Outside the parlour in Parnell high street!

Originally Posted by JoshC

Chunky mud tyres on 22 inch rims is what really cracks me up!

Was at the local Isuzu dealer the other week and they had a ute they had just set up as per the customers instructions - federal mudgrips on 18" rims, winch and winchbar, side bars ,blah blah.
Ask the dealer about it and he said it's not how he would do things.
But the following day I could attest that it did indeed go offroad - I saw it go through the local Wendys drive through

This thread has been quite informative, I'll have worn out my current maxxis mudgrips by the new year then and will be shopping for all terrains and I've got a little list of tyres to look at and price now

Originally Posted by WOPASS

36/12.5/16 simex centipede, best AT tyre you can buy

I like to be able to hear the radio, myself.