Thread: Auto vs Manaul utes

Originally Posted by Johnny Utah

A bit of both it’s funny how yes sir no sir nothings a problem sir untill the money has changed hands and your down the road. unfortunately for my dealer I have two hiluxs one under a business name they have not made the connection between probably because partner drops of picks up etc our family one and we receive very different levels of service.

Workshop wise
Look the way I see it cars have problems they all do they break things time to time have certain faults that’s motoring. All you can ask for is to be straight up and down about it .But what I have Had is a few problems arise And been told it’s fine it’s normal or it’s us general ducking
In regards to the dpf burn off excessive smoking
And when they fix your work truck no questions asked for the same problem but give ya the cold shoulder run around privately it can/will leave a sour taste in your mouth.

The product to this point I like but i have not struck this sort of deniably with Toyota before and I will be honest and say I haven’t bought from the same dealer as the previous models living in different places at the time but it’s a gobal brand and the same product so should to a degree expect consistent service

Yes I know a dealer change could be the answer but as there is have a class action against Toyota in Australia for fobbing people off for this exact problem maybe they are doing as told just

As George w bush said once bitten hummm twice bitten shy or some shit 👍🏻

This issue seems to be common to most manufacturers, through friends and family I've heard similar issues of denial and ineptitude from Mazda, Land Rover, Suzuki (twice) and multiple general mechanics.

I'm just glad I work on my own vehicles as I don't trust anyone else to have the same amount of care or intrest as I do.

@Jonny Utah must say your dealer must have his head in the clouds if he can’t connect your number plate to who he’s sold his utes too
Thanks for the feed back on post#47

Mauser 308, to tow 3.5 tonnes behind the ranger here in Oz you have to have it and the boat trailer fitted with electronic brakes. I assume the same in NZ. Properly adjusted on a tandem trailer they should take a lot of the breaking load off the ute in my experience.

got an auto ranger and a manual amarok........ prefer the vw for some reason

Are manual locking front hubs available for modern utes such as the Ranger?

Ok so I’ve read most of this thread.
Most not all so apologise if it’s been covered but how’s the brakes auto vs manual? As in auto you use the brakes more...so they must wear out sooner.
So if your not towing a lot, which of the two is it.
I like driving manuals so my prejudice is for them. But I can see the pros for auto. Question is don’t tow, have traffic but concerned about fuel consumption and changing break discs pads every five minutes. On road off road 80/20.
Which would you chose.

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Ok so I’ve read most of this thread.
Most not all so apologise if it’s been covered but how’s the brakes auto vs manual? As in auto you use the brakes more...so they must wear out sooner.
So if your not towing a lot, which of the two is it.
I like driving manuals so my prejudice is for them. But I can see the pros for auto. Question is don’t tow, have traffic but concerned about fuel consumption and changing break discs pads every five minutes. On road off road 80/20.
Which would you chose.

If you do traffic fuel consumption will be similar and any minor increase in brake pad wear will be offset by not wearing out a costly to replace clutch.
My Father has had a auto Colorado from new and reguarly tows 2.5-3 tonne of boat over takaka hill ( one of nzs steeper tight turns hills) and fuel tankers.
He had the front pads and disks replaced at the 100,000km service not because they were out of spec but because that is what the book service states and he is a stickler for serviceing.

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Originally Posted by Sideshow

Ok so I’ve read most of this thread.
Most not all so apologise if it’s been covered but how’s the brakes auto vs manual? As in auto you use the brakes more...so they must wear out sooner.
So if your not towing a lot, which of the two is it.
I like driving manuals so my prejudice is for them. But I can see the pros for auto. Question is don’t tow, have traffic but concerned about fuel consumption and changing break discs pads every five minutes. On road off road 80/20.
Which would you chose.

I wouldn't loose any sleep over brake wear, I've never noticed byself braking more between one or the other.
If it's something you are worried about then adjust your driving style to suit or just drive in tiptronic.

Life’s to bloody short to be driving land rovers and spend all the time repairing them.....I’ll stick with my L200

As an aside my 80 series cruiser after having rebuilt all the calipers and replaced all the disks front and rear at great expense I would still smoke a set of front pads every warrent and rears every second.....admittedly it was on 33" tires and they work the brakes a bit harder but my driving style is no differnt to say the hilux I had on 33"s or any of the other old school trucks/utes I have had.....they just had shit brakes and a heavy vehicle with a shit automatic box.
Thankfully things have moved on.

Ok so all good just my 04 L200 which I brought SH with 75000 miles on the clock has never had its brakes done while I’ve owned it and I’ve added another 75000 miles.
Also I’d rather change a manual clutch than an auto. Plus if for some god awful reason you do brake down at lest you can tow it. Or push start a manual. Unless things have moved on there too?

Manual vs Auto

Went way up a river bed hunting many years ago got to the hut strange the auto box land cruiser was sitting no one about.

Turns out one of the batteries went duff he was stuck until an other battery arrived. and they had to walk to and from their chosen hunting spot.

My old manual Triton 2.8td was parked next to it and for fun I let it roll a couple of vehicle lengths down the hill we were parked on and it started easily.

Ive also put petrol in it more times than I should admit its still going strong just had the injectors checked, shimmed the camshaft valve clearances fitted a new timing chain and tensioner hopefully it will still go to the moon and back again!

I have a BMW X5 40d M Sport 8 speed auto I am going to sell but I am keeping the old Triton.