Thread: Ford ranger 2 litre bi turbo

Originally Posted by No.3

And just to confirm for us, the wet belt engine is on the 2L diesel in the new shape 'next gen' ranger isn't it? The older PX3 did not feature the wet belt engine? Sorry, @Billymavs

My comment is relevant from the introduction of the PX series in 2011 upto current offerings on the same platform as of 2025/26

The older PX3 2.0 was indeed wet belt, the 2.2, and 3.2 are timing chain.

Thanks to the Guinea pigs in the UK We got a heads up around the time of the PX2 being released as the UK market tends to lean towards smaller engines across the board, and that’s where we first started getting wind of how diabolically shit the 2.0 was in the ranger and transit.

Strange, considering the 2.2 so far has shown to be as tough as a brick and remarkably reliable for a tiny engine with a massive amount of boost shoved into it, and ultimately they aren’t majorly different in design, other than the wet belt system.

I’m amazed people buy wet belt vehicles, I cannot think of one that doesn’t have the same issues at some stage associated with the design flaws pertaining especially towards oil starvation due to ingress in the pick up, and intensified gumming and fouling of the engine and valvetrain due to more particulates and contaminants present as the belt disintegrates into the oil during operation over time.

One or two missed intervals, and you’ve just created the world’s most expensive game of “when not if” .

All the dead PX2/3 rangers I’ve delt with or come across are always the same two things, oil starvation resulting in a cooked donk, and potentially transmission, or the transmission has kaked up due to being overloaded uphill and been egregiously over heated.

Then when we get to the great “new” V6, electrical and general build quality make a trabant look appealing, along with shoddy engine assembly and QC.

I hold out hope the new “Super ranger” is good, a man can dream !

Originally Posted by Billymavs

My comment is relevant from the introduction of the PX series in 2011 upto current offerings on the same platform as of 2025/26

The older PX3 2.0 was indeed wet belt, the 2.2, and 3.2 are timing chain.

Thanks to the Guinea pigs in the UK We got a heads up around the time of the PX2 being released as the UK market tends to lean towards smaller engines across the board, and that’s where we first started getting wind of how diabolically shit the 2.0 was in the ranger and transit.

Strange, considering the 2.2 so far has shown to be as tough as a brick and remarkably reliable for a tiny engine with a massive amount of boost shoved into it, and ultimately they aren’t majorly different in design, other than the wet belt system.

I’m amazed people buy wet belt vehicles, I cannot think of one that doesn’t have the same issues at some stage associated with the design flaws pertaining especially towards oil starvation due to ingress in the pick up, and intensified gumming and fouling of the engine and valvetrain due to more particulates and contaminants present as the belt disintegrates into the oil during operation over time.

One or two missed intervals, and you’ve just created the world’s most expensive game of “when not if” .

All the dead PX2/3 rangers I’ve delt with or come across are always the same two things, oil starvation resulting in a cooked donk, and potentially transmission, or the transmission has kaked up due to being overloaded uphill and been egregiously over heated.

Then when we get to the great “new” V6, electrical and general build quality make a trabant look appealing, along with shoddy engine assembly and QC.

I hold out hope the new “Super ranger” is good, a man can dream !

Right - thanks for your reply there that clears all up! I'm surprised you didn't mention the early V6 cracking the crank and spontaneously disassembling itself!

There were a lot of issues prior to the current version as far as shoddy engine assembly. My 3.2 made us stop talking and start gawking when we pulled the common rail pressure sender out, whoever fitted it originally dipped the end of the sensor in thread sealant and it was a real WTF? moment when we found it. It was over sealed to the point that the bottom half of the common rail was covered in jellified white goo, with the end of the sender fully blocked off. Who knows how the injectors didn't get blocked by it, although one was partially blocked... We were amazed it was still running to be fair!

Originally Posted by No.3

Right - thanks for your reply there that clears all up! I'm surprised you didn't mention the early V6 cracking the crank and spontaneously disassembling itself!

There were a lot of issues prior to the current version as far as shoddy engine assembly. My 3.2 made us stop talking and start gawking when we pulled the common rail pressure sender out, whoever fitted it originally dipped the end of the sensor in thread sealant and it was a real WTF? moment when we found it. It was over sealed to the point that the bottom half of the common rail was covered in jellified white goo, with the end of the sender fully blocked off. Who knows how the injectors didn't get blocked by it, although one was partially blocked... We were amazed it was still running to be fair!

I could go on for the next decade about ford and that sorry excuse of a V6 but we are here for the 4cyls

I’m ford falcon and F series truck through and through, but the only good “utes” they have ever made are scabbed off Mazda or designed under partnership with them and a few badges tossed on the front, and I’ll die on that hill !

Special exception be made for the P5AT, it’s a good motor that doesn’t get enough credit, same for the duratourq 2.2

Is that the 4.0 v6 from 20 years back

Just for Bruce, I'm sure you guys have all seen this before

Is kinda cool runnig a truck that can do 0-100 loaded that others can't nearly do empty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngZbbJAIl4A



LOVE MY LARRY THE SPORTS TRUCK don't hate em till you drove em boys n girls

It wasnt desighned to not squeek and rattle. If it was desighned for war it probably wasnt expected to have a very long life expectancy either...

Some very good deals to be had on 2024 spec 2 litre XLT Rangers I hear?

Just blew the transmission and who knows what else on my '21 Ranger 2L biT f4max towing my 3ton adventure caravan yesterday.
It was towing mint, no issues. I was literally just thinking i would post on this thread how good it was towing. Nek minute, big clunk just behind the engine felt through my feet, instant dead engine, stranded blocking the uphill lane at the Makatote viaduct.
94k km odo and id only owned to for a couple of months, barely used it in that time too.

Sure it didn't have an engine failure and not the box? Instant dead engine would be unusual for a transmission failure I would have thought, my experience of taking out boxes is the engine stays running but with noises and a smorgasbord of lights on the dash...

@No.3 i honestly wouldnt know, I'm no mechanic.
The engine wasn't hot, no smoke, not stutter, no smells. Plenty of warning lights and messages on the hud.
Only visible issue was fluid out of here.


The ford mechanics will let me know at some point after they receive it today.

Yeah, that will answer your questions. Not ideal though, I would be expecting both ends to not be happy from the sounds of it (instant stop like that).

A customers brother was telling me the same thing happend to him. Ford just put a new engine in it. He says it was at 84k not thrashing it either just going down to the shops

Yeah, an abrupt stop like that is not too good for anything. Is your one a PX series ranger or the "next gen" version with the 2L 'wet belt' engine?

The lube oil pump on the bigger 3.2L engine is a good example of this, the pump is a vane design with sliding internal vanes that do the actual pumping of the engine oil through the engine. If the vanes wear enough they can shatter, leading to a sudden stop of the lube pump. Best case scenario is it shatters the chain driving the lube pump, you get the low oil pressure light and you have about 30 seconds to shut the engine off. Worse case scenario, the lube pump chain shattering takes out the timing chain and the timing bits with shrapnel which gives you no warning and completely destroys the engine...

Got to marvel at our advancements in vehicle desighn ay

Yeah, but it save 0.75Kw over the gear type oil pump! How else do you reckon Ford gets the emissions down haha. Once you buy it it's your problem...