Thread: Getting power out of a harley

Originally Posted by Ftx325

that would explain the need to stop at every watering hole on the 100km journey to allow those fire breathing engines to cool ..... and for the rider to come down off of the nerve tingling, adrenalin pumping high that accompanies riding such a rapid , rabid machine . My hat is off to those brave men who battle the beast every time they throw a leg over ....

Just make sure that it's only your hat that get's removed. Some have been known to wear those assless chaps.

Originally Posted by Ftx325

that would explain the need to stop at every watering hole on the 100km journey to allow those fire breathing engines to cool ..... and for the rider to come down off of the nerve tingling, adrenalin pumping high that accompanies riding such a rapid , rabid machine . My hat is off to those brave men who battle the beast every time they throw a leg over ....

you need to rest frequently when riding those ones with the high handlebars so you catch all the wind. Even these tough motherfuckers have a limit to their grip strength

Originally Posted by outlander

Just make sure that it's only your hat that get's removed. Some have been known to wear those assless chaps.

those chaps come in handy for toilet visits with your mates

I guess hp isn't everything. My MT-01 makes less than 90hp max and only about 50hp at 2500RPM (a bit over 100kmph). But, it makes a max of 150Nm of torque and over 140Nm from 2000RPM upwards so passing/hills are not a problem. Open the throttle and it surges forward. Lean it over and it goes around corners. Pull the brake lever and it stops. And it doesn't mind loping along at sensible speeds, unlike my RC8 that just begs to be ridden too fast.

Originally Posted by Shearer

I guess hp isn't everything. My MT-01 makes less than 90hp max and only about 50hp at 2500RPM (a bit over 100kmph). But, it makes a max of 150Nm of torque and over 140Nm from 2000RPM upwards so passing/hills are not a problem. Open the throttle and it surges forward. Lean it over and it goes around corners. Pull the brake lever and it stops. And it doesn't mind loping along at sensible speeds, unlike my RC8 that just begs to be ridden too fast.

it's definately nice to have a choice of what to ride depending on the mood and destination. I would take either the yammy R1 for playing on the hills or the old trumpy bonny for just cruising with the missus for a bit of a break from the house and kids and a stop for a coffee if that's what the day offered.
And as you said , the modern sports bikes just aren't happy unless you are wringing their necks and cranking them over in the corners , but that isn't the be all and end all of motorcycling.
Nothing more relaxing than a nice leisurely cruise on a bike away from traffic , or sitting on the side of a hill with a pack and a rifle and admiring the view....

Might blow the cobwebs off mine tomorrow, if it looks like staying fine... the oil drip is from the Landy..



Choices, choices...

Take the Honda.

Would love to see the torque figures of the 114 fatbob next to all the rice rockets.

Originally Posted by cameronjackwhite

Would love to see the torque figures of the 114 fatbob next to all the rice rockets.

Bring it on. Yamaha MT-01 150Nm @ 3750RPM. Only 102 cube though.

Originally Posted by Shearer

Take the Honda.

Yesterday’s and today’s ride. I like it quite a lot. The DCT is just fantastic. I’m real keen to ride Harleys Pan America if it ever gets here. Plan was to trade the Fatbob on the Pan Am but I gave up waiting for it...

I kicked the tyres on a Livewire today. Holy shit fuck. Talk about quick! See a gap, semi-pin it and you’re there. The acceleration from stopped is unbelievable. Doesn’t have the top end of a rice rocket, but for a city commuter in traffic, just brilliant. No gear changes to worry about, a ton of engine braking (regenerative) in sports mode, over 200 km range with a conservative riding mode, a very impressive bit of kit. But the price point in NZ just kills it, which is sad because once you’ve ridden it, it’s hard to walk away from.

Originally Posted by mimms2

Psssssst. Electric...

I think he's replying to the original post...

Originally Posted by hamsav

Not that familiar with this engine. Twin or single cam?, Compression ratio ? . Im thinkin dialing in cam timing to suit a bit more top end , like maybe retard the intake a bit ... Do you know the timing ? Maybe plane heads a wee bit for more compression, and deff have a tu tu with the ports and valves/seats with a view to increasing low lift flow. 100hp shouldnt be that hard but you would lose a bit of usefulness. I think the best plan on a budget would be to just clean up ports , ad a bit of comp and sort the timing . My Ducati had different cam timing on each pot, some are 8deg difference between pots . A good measure up of stock timing may reveal some "anomalies" and potentially liberate a bit more ned. All the above can be done without a major disassembly. Aiming for a number , like 100bhp ,specially if its a close thing could leave you happy or sad depending on who's dyno you use to test output. Test it 1st , have a bit of a tidy up and retest ,you may find seat of the pants testing means more to you than numbers on paper

No longer an issue as I traded up to a 103 ci softail. Still looking to do some torque cams in the future as we all love tinkering however it seemed more cost effective upgrading bike than dropping thousands into the sporty.

Originally Posted by ishoot10s

I kicked the tyres on a Livewire today. Holy shit fuck. Talk about quick! See a gap, semi-pin it and you’re there. The acceleration from stopped is unbelievable. Doesn’t have the top end of a rice rocket, but for a city commuter in traffic, just brilliant. No gear changes to worry about, a ton of engine braking (regenerative) in sports mode, over 200 km range with a conservative riding mode, a very impressive bit of kit. But the price point in NZ just kills it, which is sad because once you’ve ridden it, it’s hard to walk away from.

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Yeah. Very spendy but also very cool. What's it like having no engine noise? That would be weird.

kinda cool.
guess you could pretend you riding whatever ya like,just play the right noise.
one of the guys at work wouldn't believe the "mean v8" that just went past was a tesla.
til he googled it