Thread: Govt Announcement on EV versus petrol today

And another to stop a monumentally expensive act of stupidity.

https://www.taxpayers.org.nz/skypath

Does this sound familar???? Labour in early World War II. Waiting for a moment when the circumstances favoured its introduction........Flip flopping to suit it's agenda.... Then and doing it again NOW!!!

A key impetus behind establishing the New Zealand Labour Party during 1916 had been to present a more unified front against conscription. Yet in 1940, it was the First Labour Government – comprising several leaders of the 1916–1918 resistance – that decided men should again be compelled to serve. While recent studies have described this as a swift and reluctant change in attitudes occasioned by the Allied defeats in France, numerous documents and speeches suggest otherwise. Senior ministers had in fact accepted the notion of wartime conscription by 1938, before waiting for a moment when the political and military circumstances favoured its introduction.

Full article here...https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...3.2020.1811471

Is it? Time to buy a horse n Gig? No rego, no wof, no insurance, no computer, no emissions control or Catalytic converter (Fartuffler)
Wooden cart with wooden wheels. Whats not too like???

My take on it is the buyers of petrol/diesel vehicles will far outnumber the EV buyers so what happens to all the Tax (yes it is a tax) collected. My bet it ends up in the consolidated funds. Now I have heard Nat/Act decry and call it a tax but not that they will reverse/cancel it. Hopefully the sheeple that voted Labour to keep the Greens out learn their lesson at the next visit to the ballot box.

Do you really think the sheep are that smart?? Next election there will be a wedding or a bady or more money will get thrown around...problem solved

Originally Posted by gonetropo

takes more energy to electrolyse hydrogen from water than you get back recombining it, the more efficient method is to make it out of natural gas.........................oh wait.

Mates got a hydrogen generator, old guy used to run a Toyota motor with it?

Originally Posted by 35whelen

Does this sound familar???? Labour in early World War II. Waiting for a moment when the circumstances favoured its introduction........Flip flopping to suit it's agenda.... Then and doing it again NOW!!!

A key impetus behind establishing the New Zealand Labour Party during 1916 had been to present a more unified front against conscription. Yet in 1940, it was the First Labour Government – comprising several leaders of the 1916–1918 resistance – that decided men should again be compelled to serve. While recent studies have described this as a swift and reluctant change in attitudes occasioned by the Allied defeats in France, numerous documents and speeches suggest otherwise. Senior ministers had in fact accepted the notion of wartime conscription by 1938, before waiting for a moment when the political and military circumstances favoured its introduction.

Full article here...https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full...3.2020.1811471

yes mh grandfather was especially dark about labour guys forcing him into the army in 1940.......
Never stopped mentioning it until he died.

Originally Posted by Pengy

My workplace uses reams and reams of `Carbon neutral paper`.....from Australia
Not sure how it gets here, but I am sure it doesnt swim.
Was pondering this whole carbon BS whilst driving around Port Nelson all night, looking at the huge plumes of black shit spewing from cargo vessels

Carbon emissions do not exist in International waters, so carbon free, cause its magic and no one country is responsible

Considering the Greens are just an ‘also ran’ and not a ruling party they seem to have far too much to say on topics like this.

Originally Posted by GDMP

Can but hope this latest nonsense puts a dent in their popularity....but who knows.So many seem blinded to their agenda and what they have in store for us.

Generally, government saves this stuff for the third term. You ain't nothing yet until they get elected back in by the worshippers.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

The PM have amazing talk from standstill right up the rev range, but as with all things the heavier the load the more power consumed.
and current sheepie technology and the ability to charge them make them a stupid idea in nz

Does anyone know what the actual increases in fuel costs/levies per litre are going to be?

Originally Posted by DemocKot

yes mh grandfather was especially dark about labour guys forcing him into the army in 1940.......
Never stopped mentioning it until he died.

My dad was of that generation, and career air force. He, and most of his contemporaries, would never vote Labour.

Originally Posted by Finnwolf

Considering the Greens are just an ‘also ran’ and not a ruling party they seem to have far too much to say on topics like this.

I hope those that strategically voted Labour, to keep the verdant nutters out, and as a protest against the duck shoving Nats, are happy with what they got, not that they would admit otherwise.

Originally Posted by Growlybear

I hope those that strategically voted Labour, to keep the verdant nutters out, and as a protest against the duck shoving Nats, are happy with what they got, not that they would admit otherwise.

...Worst part of this: people swallowed their principles to vote for Seabiscuit's Coup.... - they didn't vote for what's happening because there was no real policy released to accurately make an informed decision.... the electorate was sucked in - to avoid the Greens....and keep Winstone First out....National imploded.....and we ended up in a clusterfuck of a future that no one predicted. Can we learn? Probably not - we are living in the golden age now.... make the most of it.