Thread: Hybrid Hilux announced

well it might not be completely useless then.

If, and that's if the Hilux gives similar savings to the petrol vs petrol hybrid Highander it'd be very impressive.
https://www.autocar.co.nz/toyota-highlander-v6-limited/
While we’d happily pay the $3000 premium for the hybrid, the V6 isn’t without merit, apart from the fact that it sucks gas. Comparing fuel use, the V6 is rated at 8.8L/100km on average, to the hybrid’s 5.6. The urban fuel use figures are telling; 11.8 for the V6, 6.0 for the hybrid. Driving the V6 over a week, we averaged 12.5L/100km, while the hybrid ended up at 6.1 for the same sort of urban driving, running around after the kids.

I'm still wondering what GR Sport gonna be like and now Hilux going hybrid in 2024.

We found no difference. We have a corolla wagon and wife got a hybrid work car its an hour plus drive to work. Hybrid used the same amount of fuel as the corolla. The only time it went into electric mode was reversing out our drive way other than that the engine was running all the time?

We have a hybrid Toyota Highlander and it’s great. Very efficient on fuel for a big 7 seater that can still haul when you put your foot down.

Apparently the Hilux is a mild hybrid so the hybrid drive is assistance only to the engine, it won't run on electric only like a "normal hybrid " Yaris, Corolla, Prius etc

My 2021 manual double cab is sitting on 8.4lt per 100kms for its 33K life so far, the average speed is only 40kph, I use 4WD when ever I'm on gravel etc usually in the lower gears as well

My previous 2017 was 9.3 for its life, same usage, so my current one is more efficient & I expect my next one (if manual) will be even better

So I don't really see the point, I guess it really depends on what it costs

My Partner got a 1500 ZR Yaris, we couldn't get a hybrid in the colour required at the time

The hybrid was $10K more & would probably do 4.5 ltrs/100, hers did 5.9 for its life, would take a while to get the extra 10K back, her replacement car is only doing 9.5

The aa did a test on them and found them efficient but not as efficiant as what the makers claimed

Originally Posted by blip

The aa did a test on them and found them efficient but not as efficiant as what the makers claimed

They’re not available until 2024.
In general almost every vehicle tests in reviews slightly worse than manufacturers claim.

I ment hybryds in general not the hilux

Which alighns with our experiance

The mild hybrid will be much better around town or at speeds lower than about 70Km/h, tootling around a parking lot will be where you gain the biggest saving on fuel consumption. Open road, and urban arterial at 80+Km/H the hybrid won't provide enough power to drive the vehicle at those speeds and the power will come from the ICE side with the slight disadvantage of the alt system charging the hybrid battery until it's fully charged.

This is the main issue for me with hybrid and ev tech, I roll out of my house into 100 and 80Km/H zones, up hill, then a short coast down followed by 100Km/H State Highway and arterial then into where I'm parking. For something like an older Leaf with 100Km around about range between charges, the useage style is the worst option you can have as it's straight away from cold up to 100 then 80Km/H, then no regen from braking in start stop traffic and at full drive, then parked. Back home is the long slog straight up the hill to home at 80Km/H the whole way, no regen there so if the thing is claiming 100Km range around town we actually only achieve around 75-80Km before we are beating feet looking for a plug. PHEV if you can't be arsed plugging it in or HEV is similar - straight up to open road speed means not using the hybrid system only as it's not usually got enough go to solely power the thing at highway speeds, and the useage requirement for our area means the people around us who have had them have not achieved anywhere near manufacturer's claims and chewed through tyres and that side faster for their trouble.

We got a 2021 Outlander, the neighbours we had (since gone to Aussie) had a 2020 Outlander PHEV same version, just hybrid and same drive just one driveway closer to town. We were returning average fuel consumption of 6.5-7.1L/100Km, theirs was returning 5.5-6.5L/100Km. The extra sticker price for the PHEV over the ICE version buys about 3.5 years of petrol at current prices, and we save on tyres etc etc. Servicing costs are basically identical as it's the same engine effectively, and servicing intervals are on Km traveled not engine hours so no saving for the short amount of time we would be on hybrid system only...