Thread: I think we might have sorted the Ranger...

Originally Posted by XR500

It would make a grand centrepiece to a North Island forum get together

Nothing stinks as bad as a car fire

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Originally Posted by BRADS

Nothing stinks as bad as a car fire

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I see you a car fire and raise you a fully loaded truck and trailer - full of processed beef and pork. That was a set of level 2 condemned haha...

Originally Posted by tac a1

Maybe we could put together a 'burn the Ford' donation page and relieve you of this eternal heartache and stress No 3

Apparently it's worth $25K - you get to that and you can burn it with my blessing (and loading the arse end with flammable shite and anything else I've got to help it go!).

reverse down boat ramp and hit both pedals with ya big wader boot , in the sea of course .

Originally Posted by m101a1

reverse down boat ramp and hit both pedals with ya big wader boot , in the sea of course .

It's got three peddles - last time I tried jumping on everything it just stalled and stopped dead... That trick is a lot more spectacular when you try and grab the clutch peddle but forget that you've jumped into an auto - just about put one of my old workmates through the windscreen accidentally one day doing that! The sea is an option though I suspect it will be like moses, and drive on to the outer islands dry, but with fish flopping all around. I'm still not convinced fire will cleanse it too.

I'm fairly sure the pile of destroyed sensors and parts off it will burn though - that is an option. Now if I could just work out what's making the weird electrical buzzing noise under the steering column I think we would be one step closer to the culprit.

They havnt built a proper ford since 1970

Originally Posted by No.3

It's got three peddles - last time I tried jumping on everything it just stalled and stopped dead... That trick is a lot more spectacular when you try and grab the clutch peddle but forget that you've jumped into an auto - just about put one of my old workmates through the windscreen accidentally one day doing that! The sea is an option though I suspect it will be like moses, and drive on to the outer islands dry, but with fish flopping all around. I'm still not convinced fire will cleanse it too.

I'm fairly sure the pile of destroyed sensors and parts off it will burn though - that is an option. Now if I could just work out what's making the weird electrical buzzing noise under the steering column I think we would be one step closer to the culprit.

In my series three land rover it was the indicator stalk in the throes of letting the smoke out. Possibly should not have had a 30 amp fuse controlling the electrons heading that way

Speaking of cigarette lighters there is one in my Triton but no ashtray I don't smoke but seemed a bit weird to me. If it's meant just for charging things etc... then why put the lighter in the socket
Anywho only 24Km on the Triton so far and no problems. Does come with a 10 year powertrain warrantee but until you have an issue there is no way of knowing if any "warrantee" is worth the paper it is written on

Originally Posted by Barefoot

You mean they come with a fuel container and a cigarette lighter these days?

Rogue electrons are only one sort of disaster modern automobiles suffer from. In Europe they are attempting to further 'green' their cars by replacing petrochemical insulation with Soy based items. Cue animals that like soy......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sT-ZReOkNs

Lol outfoxed again aye

Originally Posted by XR500

Rogue electrons are only one sort of disaster modern automobiles suffer from. In Europe they are attempting to further 'green' their cars by replacing petrochemical insulation with Soy based items. Cue animals that like soy......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sT-ZReOkNs

Originally Posted by rugerman

Speaking of cigarette lighters there is one in my Triton but no ashtray I don't smoke but seemed a bit weird to me. If it's meant just for charging things etc... then why put the lighter in the socket
Anywho only 24Km on the Triton so far and no problems. Does come with a 10 year powertrain warrantee but until you have an issue there is no way of knowing if any "warrantee" is worth the paper it is written on

there are many clauses in that warranty.
we owned one for 5 years, then bought a dmax

Remember when trucks were reliable and no one fought over who's truck was best as they all were great.

Originally Posted by gonetropo

there are many clauses in that warranty.
we owned one for 5 years, then bought a dmax

Just had a couple of rear shocks replaced in our outlander under warranty - cannot fault mitsi for that one. They even rang my wife and left her a message to tell her her car was ready. She doesn't check her voice messages. Oops.

Originally Posted by No.3

Yeah but none of them are the specialist tools needed to work on the vehicle! That's a bit shortsighted I feel.

Having said that we made the same comment when Toyota brought out their line of accessory tools in Toyota branded chests.

As far as the ute, ran 400 odd k's in it today. Went bloody well actually - right up until it got to my favourite corner on the matamata side of the Kaimais about 4 or 5 corners from the 'Summit Lookout' and it popped a check powertrain light with the generic diagnostic code. Now, I smell a rat here - 400Km or so to the north of Auckland - and yet it does the same fault on the same corner that it has for the last 5 times. That's an indication of a wiring loom failing, a clockspring behind the steering wheel not liking the right-left-right motion or body roll tweaking something else which is referring the fault to one module which is then triggering the generic code. This is what was wrong with the cruise control - the throttle body has a little motor in it that controls the position of the airflow flap and the original one fitted to the vehicle was damaged from what we think is the power supply problem with the faulty powertrain control module. Replaced the throttle body and hey presto the cruise control works again - but no fault code indicated that the throttle body was not serviceable. And this is the issue in a nutshell with computer controlled engine management systems and sensors - there is not enough diagnostic equipment fitted to them to actually tell you what component caused the issue. When I say it's popping a generic code, that code could relate to apparently more than 26 different fault conditions - which is a bit of a limiting factor. As I said - this isn't actually a Ford issue (but haters gunna hate) as the engine management on these vehicles is Bosch gear (the newer model is Seimens gear apparently) so potentially this failure could happen with any vehicle fitted with this brand of engine management.

The problem this leaves me is the vehicle is not really saleable without the issue resolved as it will just boomerang so I'm kinda stuck with either option A which is fix it, or option B which is take the hit and sell it for or wreck it for parts myself. It does not appear to be a mechanical fault - it's the engine management and control system with one or two parts that we have yet to find giving the issue.

Next problem, the people in the know tell me that 3500Kg towing with the new gen utes is not something they are keen to experience as the gear is lighter than the generation I have now in the pursuit of better fuel economy/less emissions tax/more profits etc etc. I'm not particularly keen on buying the same version as I have already used and with a list of false promises, and don't really want a Dodge Ram or a light truck which have the same issues as the new utes (everything in them is so light weight now) so what to do... Maybe the solution is avoid that corner of the Kaimais

You could always take it to a dealership & trade it there then there be no come back on you because they should done there checks

Originally Posted by hunt08

You could always take it to a dealership & trade it there then there be no come back on you because they should done there checks

Yeah, but they offer 15K and want to charge $65K for something that's how much better? Far better off getting something privately at the moment - much better buying power that way. It's just what to do with this thing I've got currently. I think we are almost all the way there though, something under the dash not playing nice now so once we sort out what that is I think it will be back to normal. Much cheaper option than trading it to be fair, as with the custom towing mods on it it's going to be a fluff around sorting out the next vehicle if I did trade it. Would need the full suspension kit fitted, towing cooler on the trans, plus whatever other mods have to be done on top of purchase price - mechanically the one I have is fine the issue is in the Bosch control gear.