Thread: New Hilux Fuel Consumption

Fuel consumption issues have nothing on the NZ economy, inflation and supply issues.

The NZ dollar has dropped to $0.62 US today, It's dropped 4 cents in a couple of weeks which will make the next tanker load of imported refined fuel more expensive. It's only going up in price so wait until Xmas/early next year when Europe's in winter and the Russian gas is turned off.

The pump price of diesel in most places is approx $3.00 per litre, some places higher than this. if you have a fuel card you can get as much as 16 cents off per litre, if you have heavy machinery and get diesel delivered by mini tankers you can shave approx 60 cents per litre off the pump price.

Those 1000 litre ICB plastic tanks can be sourced for around $70, mini tanker fill, drill a small hole approx 4mm dia in the top of the large plastic cap and place some electrical tape over it to act as a vent etc.

Most of you farming folk will have it sorted with you own above ground tankage but other rural people could save some dosh, townies I guess will have a storage problem.

Just a tip to try and save some people a few dollars.

Originally Posted by 300winmag

Fuel consumption issues have nothing on the NZ economy, inflation and supply issues.

The NZ dollar has dropped to $0.62 US today, It's dropped 4 cents in a couple of weeks which will make the next tanker load of imported refined fuel more expensive. It's only going up in price so wait until Xmas/early next year when Europe's in winter and the Russian gas is turned off.

The pump price of diesel in most places is approx $3.00 per litre, some places higher than this. if you have a fuel card you can get as much as 16 cents off per litre, if you have heavy machinery and get diesel delivered by mini tankers you can shave approx 60 cents per litre off the pump price.

Those 1000 litre ICB plastic tanks can be sourced for around $70, mini tanker fill, drill a small hole approx 4mm dia in the top of the large plastic cap and place some electrical tape over it to act as a vent etc.

Most of you farming folk will have it sorted with you own above ground tankage but other rural people could save some dosh, townies I guess will have a storage problem.

Just a tip to try and save some people a few dollars.

Don't think you'll get the plastic tank filled by on farm or rural fuel deliveries, the ones I know have fairly strict delivery container terms.

And yet those IBC's get freighted from overseas with all sorts of toxic hydrocarbons inside them....

Get two of them. Put one on a trailer, go to Gull during their 12 cents/L off the already cheapest price in town, fill in the middle of the night, drive home and decant into the other one you have (most people won't have the forklift capacity to lift them full off the back of the trailer).

Expensive fuel won't be half as inconvenient as no fuel available whatsoever when, for whatever reason a ship can't get here.

300winmag may correct me, but diesel will keep for years. Petrol in full steel 205's will also keep for ages. My quads, 2 wheelers and chainsaws are all running on a 2.5 year old drum I just opened. Makes me wince just thinking how cheap it was when it was filled...

Originally Posted by XR500

And yet those IBC's get freighted from overseas with all sorts of toxic hydrocarbons inside them....

Get two of them. Put one on a trailer, go to Gull during their 12 cents/L off the already cheapest price in town, fill in the middle of the night, drive home and decant into the other one you have (most people won't have the forklift capacity to lift them full off the back of the trailer).

Expensive fuel won't be half as inconvenient as no fuel available whatsoever when, for whatever reason a ship can't get here.

300winmag may correct me, but diesel will keep for years. Petrol in full steel 205's will also keep for ages. My quads, 2 wheelers and chainsaws are all running on a 2.5 year old drum I just opened. Makes me wince just thinking how cheap it was when it was filled...

See an odd one already getting filled at Gull. Another problem many rural people may have is a spare $3000 to fill one. Also you may have to pay someone to guard it. Used to hear some sad stories from logging contractors loosing large amounts of fuel over the weekend, this was when diesel was under 70 cents a liter. One guy used to place the 5000l tank down a gully well clear of the road, reckoned the thieves used his log loader to cart the tank up to the road, emptied it over the weekend and returned it to the gully.

Yes, that sort of carry on will only increase when times get tough.

MOW in Twizel 45yrs -50yrs ago in the dam building days used to put coloured dy in their fuel tanks.If you stole petrol or diesel.You soon got found out.DCM with no union back up.

My brother has a 2015 ranger which is stock standard and I bought a new ranger in 2020 for my work vehicle. I was very shocked to find out how much more thirsty my new ute was compared to his. My ute has all the extras, wheels, steel bullbars, side bars, running boards, canopy, roof racks & couple of hundred kgs of tools in the back. From memory my brother was getting about 350 km's more out of each tank of fuel than me.

I went back into Ford after I'd had my ute for about a month and questioned them about the fuel my ute seemed to be using, they just said it would get better once the engine wears in. It has never got any better though that I've noticed.

I have a new hilux hopefully arriving in a couple of weeks so will be interesting to compare the two.

Originally Posted by Trout

MOW in Twizel 45yrs -50yrs ago in the dam building days used to put coloured dy in their fuel tanks.If you stole petrol or diesel.You soon got found out.DCM with no union back up.

When I was a kid farmers didn't pay any tax on their farm petrol. Petrol that was bulk delivered to the farm was dyed (blue I think) to ensure that it was only used for farm use. Late 1950's

Originally Posted by Tahr

When I was a kid farmers didn't pay any tax on their farm petrol. Petrol that was bulk delivered to the farm was dyed (blue I think) to ensure that it was only used for farm use. Late 1950's

Know of a cocky who was having problems with IRD, they wanted to place die in the farm tanks to see where the fuel was heading, this was approx. 20 years ago

Originally Posted by tetawa

Know of a cocky who was having problems with IRD, they wanted to place die in the farm tanks to see where the fuel was heading, this was approx. 20 years ago

Know a cocky who does a lot of farming at Waihau Bay and shifting his cattle 12 miles out. LOL. .

Noticed a glitch today normally about 11or 12l came right though!

Originally Posted by Trout

MOW in Twizel 45yrs -50yrs ago in the dam building days used to put coloured dy in their fuel tanks.If you stole petrol or diesel.You soon got found out.DCM with no union back up.

how would the dye help if the engine burns the fuel to run?

Originally Posted by Russian 22.

how would the dye help if the engine burns the fuel to run?

They can sample the tank or container.
Think Britain has similar

Originally Posted by csmiffy

They can sample the tank or container.
Think Britain has similar

Britain they have a marine fuel that is one colour, a farm fuel thats another and the road is a different one again. Heaven help you if you get caught with the wrong colour in the wrong tank...

If you have dye in the fuel, it's a pain in the arse and can screw up your filters bigtime. The colouring chemical they put in at the fuel supplier isn't a dye as such so won't settle out like a dye can. Used to use the purple spray marker dye in diesel at an outfit I used to work at where the diesel was used as a process fuel and we needed to know how the mix was. It was quite hard on the fuel system and one dose of dye would last for several tank fills as it settled out below the tank pickup and you needed to have more in the tank to force it to stain the fuel. The dye also seemed to drag water out of the fuel which was a pain, and the other thing the dye did was it seemed to force the wax to settle out of the diesel at a warmer temperature than otherwise so in a cold snap the fuel filters clogged up with a waxy, wet purple ooze that stained everything that got within 15m... Nasty.