Thread: A question on Leraner driving.

Originally Posted by riflegus

Why auto? After driving one of those Road rangers for years
Don't want to see a manual again lol.
A modern auto pisses all over any manual(depend of application of course), designed to make things simple.

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Only four gates?

Anyone know if there's still speed restrictions on learners?

As far as I know, exactly same speed limits but absolutely no alcohol in system.

Originally Posted by No.3

Yeah the auto/manual thing is almost done and dusted - walk onto your average dealers lot and try and find a manual car (actual car, not a ute, SUV or van). They are rare as hens teeth and rocking horse poo now, haven't seen a new one that wasn't a 'sports' type special fit with three pedals for a LONG time.

I agree about the auto/EV thing though too - some of the EV's are complicated as shite and you need a manual (ha - the paper thing not the three pedals) to really know how to work the systems.

U just don't live in 70 series country m8, they don't even come auto - a MAN'S truck

Got my missus a Haval H6 Hybrid before christmas. The thing almost drives itself, it has smart cruise control, just set the max speed you want and it will adjust to any cars in front including braking where necessary. It has auto lane centering, it will basically steer the vehicle on the open road for you including slowing down on sharp bends.

You still need to keep your hands on the wheel, and it will beep at you and start to slow down if you don't (has like a 5-10 second window).

The other thing that blows me away is the way it works. Electrics drive the wheels, it has a small EV battery, and uses the engine like a generator. So acceleration is smooth as with no gear changes. So weird.

Originally Posted by vulcannz

Got my missus a Haval H6 Hybrid before christmas. The thing almost drives itself, it has smart cruise control, just set the max speed you want and it will adjust to any cars in front including braking where necessary. It has auto lane centering, it will basically steer the vehicle on the open road for you including slowing down on sharp bends.

You still need to keep your hands on the wheel, and it will beep at you and start to slow down if you don't (has like a 5-10 second window).

The other thing that blows me away is the way it works. Electrics drive the wheels, it has a small EV battery, and uses the engine like a generator. So acceleration is smooth as with no gear changes. So weird.

Like a vegetarian that secretly eats bacon I bet it's super nice to drive

Originally Posted by vulcannz

Got my missus a Haval H6 Hybrid before christmas. The thing almost drives itself, it has smart cruise control, just set the max speed you want and it will adjust to any cars in front including braking where necessary. It has auto lane centering, it will basically steer the vehicle on the open road for you including slowing down on sharp bends.

You still need to keep your hands on the wheel, and it will beep at you and start to slow down if you don't (has like a 5-10 second window).

Seriously not convinced on all those driver aids, I'm convinced its dumbing us down as a species

Yes Happy J you do have a point about the driver aids, but from my observations it's older drivers I'd be just as concerned about with such things as the young ( I will get back to this in a mo ) Distraction is the biggest problem on our roads at the mo, fuk me people on phones , playing with their touch screens ( which let's face it aren't all fantastic n fast as a I phone 15 ) , fukwits that are just completely unaware of wtf is going on around them, plenty don't even know what a rear view mirror is ffs & cunt's that don't know basic shit like - how to merge or that lane sweeping is illegal.

As for learner drivers


I taught both my girls to drive & here's a couple of things I worked out


* Just go auto for teaching, while I grew up on the farm with manual bikes, tractors, trucks etc. My kids did not & using an auto take's one major problem out of the equation ( had a mate that was so caught up on his son learning to drive in his manual, was to much pressure on the little guy, his old man got fucked off he nearly burned outed the clutch n was just a stressful shit experience alround ) worry about the stick shift stuff later on once they get some road time & street skills.


* Be in a decent sized wagon don't learn to drive in a Vitz or Micro, you want something high n big ( I used my Ranger WT & they soon become aware to size, traffic & can see what ahead ). Then start by going somewhere quite ( I used the local Massey Uni ) has all the characteristics of a proper public road with low speed limits n traffic to get their basic skills up with carparks, reversing etc before going to highway level.


* Once they get the confidence up, go do proper after dinner roadies be it around town, off to the beach, open road windy shit & night driving. This is where modern features come in handy like auto wipers & high beam dipping are really handy ( just one less thing to worry about while learning proper real world - defensive driving skills ) worry about that stuff later, it's not hard to learn

* Put the hours in, drum through defensive - reading the road skills, read the room - pressure when needed to drive home form seeing Nana, get their confidence up but tell em when they do a dick move.

* Then go pay for some proper driving lessons, it's a great way for them to get up the "Licence test curriculum" & shows em that the old man knows his shit

Originally Posted by stagstalker

I’m on an auto ute now after my first three trucks all being manual. Will never go back to manual now but I will definitely be teaching my kids to drive manual. Manual will be pretty well dead by the time they are driving i’d say but it still translates to things like tractors and the older vehicles that will still be on the road etc so still a fundamental skill in my eyes.

7 years ago they were saying manuals would be gone by now...and auto drive would take over by 2030...... cant see either happening in huge hurry.

I still love a manual but for everyday driving in a ute I am auto all the way.

Had to sell my mates GTR a while back and the heavy clutch in that thing engaged a few lost muscles haha
after an hour driving it through the city I was swearing at every traffic light.

While I agree driving auto's is easy, my stepson was taught by a neighbour in an ancient Riley with no syncro box he now drives autos purely because of a hip problem. Me I don't do city driving and still love my manual ute as long as it lives.

I learnt in England and everybody pays for lessons its just part of life over there.

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

Seriously not convinced on all those driver aids, I'm convinced its dumbing us down as a species

On the other hand it might save us from the dumb drivers

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

Seriously not convinced on all those driver aids, I'm convinced its dumbing us down as a species

Trust me...its not driver aids doing that.....There are so many factors at play. I suspect drivers aids are actually there to ensure the targets of the 'dumbing down' survive....I mean dumbing the population down and then weeding them out with car crashes sort of defeats the purpose....

Originally Posted by Happy Jack

While I agree driving auto's is easy, my stepson was taught by a neighbour in an ancient Riley with no syncro box he now drives autos purely because of a hip problem. Me I don't do city driving and still love my manual ute as long as it lives.

I learnt in England and everybody pays for lessons its just part of life over there.

I got my Bus/Coach/Cat D licence in England, It's a lot stricter over there and there's no way anyone could pas the test without at least a full day of lessons. Quite different to over here. Not sure what the car licence stuff is like though.