Thread: Robinson helicopters - new possible rules CAA

One was in New Plymouth, experienced instructor with a student, when it violently rolled right he followed it by rolling right into it to keep the disc alignment to fuselage, then flew it out of the dive. It did damage the rotor head but held together.

Here's the Taic report
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Originally Posted by outdoorlad

One was in New Plymouth, experienced instructor with a student, when it violently rolled right he followed it by rolling right into it to keep the disc alignment to fuselage, then flew it out of the dive. It did damage the rotor head but held together.

Here's the Taic report
Aviation Reports[G]skins/taicAviation/skin_aviation

Cheers. You would want plenty of height on your side.😆

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Speaking to the caa guys, he was extremely lucky and was fractions of a mm from having a different outcome.

In regards to mast bumps overseas. There are numerous must bumping accidents. One recent one killed two extremely experienced and high time pilots in Canada.
Aside from mast bumping, many people have been killed due to post impact fires. In accidents that should have been survivable. The fuel tanks just couldn't handle a heavy landing and would rupture. You can change to a sealing tank but again at owners cost.

Don't forget, demonstrating mast bumping is actually illegal. Flight manual states it.

Sorry, demonstrating low G

And in the Herald this week the Pilot /Owner of a company in Wanaka with several different Robby's has flown 22,000 hrs, 16,000 in Robby's no problems, skilled I'd say....like my mate Alan Beck, Eltham, skilled not killed...

Just a question. Could a specialist manufacturer or another helicopter manufacturer be able to build some stronger or better blades for the Robinson? Or adapt three blades instead of two?

Yes they could.
Van Horn made a new tail rotor for the b206 which gives it pretty amazing tail rotor authority. No problems with Loss of Authority landing at 11200ft. They have now made main rotor blades for the 206.
No doubt SSB and Mr Beck are extremely skilled pilots. But the fact that there are so many unexplained accidents in Robbies makes me concerned. CAA workers told me that most Robbie accidents, the actual cause of the accident are unknown.

Thought Van Horn were designing blades for the 44 as well. Not sure what's happening with them now though.

Have not heard about the Robbie ones, but they are developing bell and md ones.
Their website made no mention of it.
Be good if they did, and made it a fully articulated head rather then teetering

You would have to change the whole drive train and possibly the engine to modify them No?

As a pure blade replacement I wouldn't think so but a redesigned head etc then more likely the drivetrain would have to be upgraded etc.

So does all this info that's been bought to everyone's eyes put people off flying in them?
My wife said "if I asked you to stop flying in Robbies would you?"
I said "probily not" so she never asked ha


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Originally Posted by Smiddy

So does all this info that's been bought to everyone's eyes put people off flying in them?
My wife said "if I asked you to stop flying in Robbies would you?"
I said "probily not" so she never asked ha

Some of us stopped flying in them years ago.

Originally Posted by Smiddy

So does all this info that's been bought to everyone's eyes put people off flying in them?
My wife said "if I asked you to stop flying in Robbies would you?"
I said "probily not" so she never asked ha


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Yes.

I won't get in one,this thread just made me more adamant that this attitude is permanent.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Very similar conversation could be had regarding 4 wheel bikes. Used as per instructions they are great machines.

Yeah but where is the fun in that haha