Thread: RUC increases

EV's are horrid. tesla doubly so

Abit off topic...

I was told NZ Toyota waiting for the new emissions law to kick in before deciding to hold or take new orders for the 70's series,
hate to think how much ute tax or ruc that beast going to cost.

Originally Posted by Lurch

You missed the fun part.
ruc going up 56%.
feel the love

They only dropped them 33% or something so they are putting the price up at the same time? That’s a bit cheeky when the whole point was cost of living. It would be like them putting the price of fuel up 35 cents a litre when they only dropped it 25

Originally Posted by Mr300WSM

They only dropped them 33% or something so they are putting the price up at the same time? That’s a bit cheeky when the whole point was cost of living. It would be like them putting the price of fuel up 35 cents a litre when they only dropped it 25

...You sound surprised???

Originally Posted by Mr300WSM

They only dropped them 33% or something so they are putting the price up at the same time? That’s a bit cheeky when the whole point was cost of living. It would be like them putting the price of fuel up 35 cents a litre when they only dropped it 25

Got to find the funds for the alternative signage somewhere.

Originally Posted by McNotty

If I remember right, EVs 0.3% chance vs CE 1.5% chance of igniting. Lots of research, figures don’t change too much. If you took out fires while EVs charging, it’d be even less.

@McNotty Dont suppose you have the stats for putting out said fires...From what I understand EV fires are extremely diffcult to quell and CE fires are relatively straight forward in comparison....Dont get me wrong; it is best to avoid fire in both- no question...but we hear that fire crews essentialy wait for EVs to finnish burning and work on stopping any fire spreading rather than actuually extinguish the fire like they would with CE....

to give you an idea, average ICE fire is 3000 gallons of water
EV's about 20,000.
the water is not put on to extinguish the fire its to try to cool the remaining battery pack down so far that it doesnt ignite from the ones already burning ( think string of "double happies")
but then the vehicle must be monitored for 3 days afterwards just in case it re-ignites.
i repair allot of stuff with lithium batteries, the main issue i find is that they are trying to fit as much power into the same space and to hell with any safety measures. i had to recharge a dead flat battery about the size of a dolphin torch battery. i put it in a cast pot on my back lawn while charging. it ignited and burnt the grass underneath as it got the pot so hot.

as for the RU increases its more BS tax grabbing and virtue signalling

considering the present political volatility and impending elections price increases would be like wheeling a full casket into a wedding methinks?a vote killer150%

And just wait until they have a critical mass of EVs out there. Once they get to a certain point they will say yup, got enough to keep the greenness mildly happy and then wack on RUCs for them too.
There is no way they will miss out on taxing them eventually

Originally Posted by csmiffy

And just wait until they have a critical mass of EVs out there. Once they get to a certain point they will say yup, got enough to keep the greenness mildly happy and then wack on RUCs for them too.
There is no way they will miss out on taxing them eventually

Bloody things should have RUC now, people can save the planet all they want but still need to pay for the infrastructure to drive on

With the state off the roads around Gisborne at the moment i was hoping for a %100 discount.
For the last couple weeks i have been in 4wd getting up my road before this l week ends rain event. If you try to drive through the pot holes i bottom out in a 4wd ute. A standard car can not make it up my road

Originally Posted by timattalon

@McNotty Dont suppose you have the stats for putting out said fires...From what I understand EV fires are extremely diffcult to quell and CE fires are relatively straight forward in comparison....Dont get me wrong; it is best to avoid fire in both- no question...but we hear that fire crews essentialy wait for EVs to finnish burning and work on stopping any fire spreading rather than actuually extinguish the fire like they would with CE....

Easy to extinguish, bury the bastards in dirt. Of cause said dirt would have to be taken to Perry’s black hole in the Waikato ��

Originally Posted by gonetropo

to give you an idea, average ICE fire is 3000 gallons of water
EV's about 20,000.
the water is not put on to extinguish the fire its to try to cool the remaining battery pack down so far that it doesnt ignite from the ones already burning ( think string of "double happies")
but then the vehicle must be monitored for 3 days afterwards just in case it re-ignites.
i repair allot of stuff with lithium batteries, the main issue i find is that they are trying to fit as much power into the same space and to hell with any safety measures. i had to recharge a dead flat battery about the size of a dolphin torch battery. i put it in a cast pot on my back lawn while charging. it ignited and burnt the grass underneath as it got the pot so hot.

as for the RU increases its more BS tax grabbing and virtue signalling

The cells out of tool batteries are great to shoot on the range.

Originally Posted by XR500

...You sound surprised???

I am not. rego will go up next

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOA7qKMcjcE

well worth a look