Thread: Cooking systems - Light vs cost

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

If its got soot on it its not hot, soot burns off when it gets hot !

Pick it up just after the flame has gone out and then tell me it's not hot!
Soot only burns off at around 500 degrees Celsius.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Upland Stalker after the crap about TI handels getting hot can I ask how hot your handel gets on that system?
reason i ask is logically it would get hotter than they typical fold out type.

Yeah, it does get warm, but can still pour the water into a freeze-dri wearing a glove. If making a cup of tea, the time the tea bag has soaked, it's cool enough to hold.

I did use to use this cup with the old kero tablets, hence the soot. Meths is a bit cleaner. Still hot though.

Originally Posted by Matt2308

Pick it up just after the flame has gone out and then tell me it's not hot!
Soot only burns off at around 500 degrees Celsius.

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Hence the laughing smiley in my post

Just for thought. I use a multi fuel cooker with petrol at the moment. Could u cook toast on it? Would the fumes be a problem.

Page 6 is what I use, similar to the ones above, all in one , boils water and no rattles set up
http://www.nzdanapier.org.nz/pdf/Bus...v_2013_web.pdf

Originally Posted by gimp

Just bought one of these to try

Triad Alcohol Stove | The Original, Lightest, and Most Compact | Alcohol Backpacking Stove - Vargo Titanium

Takes approx 1:30 to prime, then approx 7:30 to boil 700ml of water in a semi-tall titanium 750ml mug, with meths and a windshield. I like it so far... not sure what to do with the leftover meths in there after blowing it out. Pouring into anything seems like a mission

e: you can use one of the legs as a bit of "spout" for the leftover meths to run down back into a container, it turns out.

Originally Posted by gimp

Takes approx 1:30 to prime, then approx 7:30 to boil 700ml of water in a semi-tall titanium 750ml mug, with meths and a windshield. I like it so far... not sure what to do with the leftover meths in there after blowing it out. Pouring into anything seems like a mission

Jeepers, I got bored and timed my 25-30? year old kovea on some doite gas (this is at home no wind) with 1l ti pot 500ml of water 2.5min to starting boil 3 min to boiling its arse off.
Thats at 3/4 throttle full bore at sea level is just wasting gas,drop in temp (within reason not talking arctic or 2500m) doesn't phase it but wind of course it takes a bit longer but would be more wind tolerant than a non pressurized alcohol burner

Yah but I bet your cooker doesn't weigh 24 grams and the fuel container (plastic bladder) also weighs next to nothing. Boiled that water on approx 20ml of meths... I don't mind waiting an extra 3 minutes before I have my cup of coffee in the morning or my mashed spud for dinner.

e: also I am boiling more water?

e2: I bet this meths thing will suck balls in any wind

Yes more water but only half as much again.
I am far to rough to use any bladder but the one inside my body used to store urine untill such time as I need to drink it and even then there is a chance it could get punctured.

Yeh the meths idea just seems to unreliable, chances are i would spill all my fuel or it would be blowing a gail if i tried to use it. I'm happy with what i have bought, should turn up in a week or so hopefully

BTU/pound of fuel

Lpg 2100
Ethanol 1200

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

BTU/pound of fuel

Lpg 2100
Ethanol 1200

yep but I'm willing to give it a try because of the lightweight of the cooker, fuel container, and the less-waste factor (no half empty canisters to worry about). I know the last one can potentially be mitigated by the refill adapter but I will consider that if the alcohol stove doesn't work out.

Yep I see what you are trying to do of course, for me tho the convenience and safety of gas is hard to beat and I am unlikely to accidentally spill all my fuel.
Lighter is good but not always better, I should probably upgrade my old kovea for the 20dollar TI cooker linked earlier and I may yet but for the weight saved its kind of Meh.
If I am going for long enough to need more than one small canister I aint walking and will fly in my camp cooker and real food.

I am not doing any fly-in trips on my own time in the foreseeable future for various reasons.