I'm pretty budget conscious.....ie got kids and I'm broke. Currently running sightron stac 4x20 on a couple of rifles. Solid optic for the dollars. No zero stop or illumination however. Put a few rounds through and Element optics 2-16 HDLR, alot or bang for the buck. Have had and used better glass that both ie NF and VX6. For the dollar do complaint and a usable mag range
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