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    The Nitecore SRT7 is a smaller lower powered light - specs:

    "Utilizes the latest CREE XM-L (XM-L2 T6) LED for a maximum output of up to 960 lumens, and boasts a peak beam intensity of 23,256cd and throw distance of up to 308 meters (ANSI FL1) "

    By comparison the Maxtoch M24 is about 85,000cd (or 85k lux), and the 2X is 122,000cd standard. Dedomed they jump to about 170-190k and 290-300k.

    The SRT7 does have an XML2 Led but its an older one - the T6. Ask gadgetman nicely and he may be able to fit an XML2-U2 upgrade and dedome it - and then you'd be looking at 50-60,000cd - and that's very useful light for hunting.

    Yes I'd guess its worth it.
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    wow that sounds awesome... Gadgetman??. Yes it is only one 18650 cell but the lens is great and the smart ring is much nicer for hunting than the push button only types. I think i need to get a Maxtourch to replace my old TR-3T6

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    I haven't had the pleasure of using these maxtoch torches but my non HID light force has spotted many deer out to over 1km on a good clear night and enabled me to shoot out to 600 seeing not just an outline but colour and sex.
    The LED Lensers I have had have had pitiful range in comparison(I realise they are completely different/shit) but the very white/blue light of them picked up eyes like all hell, but you couldn't see the body or colour to identify, much like HID for animal ID at Range HID is backward step from halogen with the very white light picking up eyes but nothing else.

    I understand the maxtoch dedomed produce a more naturalv light colour ?
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    Yes. We used our 2x dedomed with brutal efficency a few months back.It is the softer light which is the key.Team it up with a 5 baffle Tok Can and you will bring home more tails than Willie Apiata.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 300CALMAN View Post
    wow that sounds awesome... Gadgetman??. Yes it is only one 18650 cell but the lens is great and the smart ring is much nicer for hunting than the push button only types. I think i need to get a Maxtourch to replace my old TR-3T6
    Looks doable, might be tricky working around the three tri-coloured LED's but sure I could sus it. You should get a Maxtoch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by veitnamcam View Post
    I haven't had the pleasure of using these maxtoch torches but my non HID light force has spotted many deer out to over 1km on a good clear night and enabled me to shoot out to 600 seeing not just an outline but colour and sex.
    The LED Lensers I have had have had pitiful range in comparison(I realise they are completely different/shit) but the very white/blue light of them picked up eyes like all hell, but you couldn't see the body or colour to identify, much like HID for animal ID at Range HID is backward step from halogen with the very white light picking up eyes but nothing else.

    I understand the maxtoch dedomed produce a more naturalv light colour ?
    Yes, it gives them a warmer/yellower tint.
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    Goodbye HID

    Hello Maxtoch
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmsaum View Post
    Goodbye HID

    Hello Maxtoch
    Sold my Nightforce a couple years ago, most of my mates not long after as well. Bloody awesome bits of kit.
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    Whoops...meant Lightforce. Same company, you get the idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmsaum View Post
    Goodbye HID

    Hello Maxtoch
    Sorta like goodbye Stihl hello Husky.LOL.
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    If the stihl was bulky, had an annoying cable and a heavy battery with a short run time and the husky was svelt, powerfull, lightweight with hrs of run time on tiny internal batteries then... yes, its exactly like that.
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    +1 Sneeze

    Lightforce make good spotties but we wanted to go right away from big handhelds and big awkward scope mounted apparatus. Bumping a big rig in and out of the truck window is not fun.

    On specification the Maxtochs are up amongst the biggest 210 and 240mm Lightforce HID spots, but weigh 400 and 500gms loaded instead of 08 to 1.8 kilograms. 2X is about 1200m max beam, and XPro 1400m, while Lightforce HIDs run through from 1000 to 1800m. But distance is just one criterion. We have no problem at all stretching a light out 2500m - had a possible Maxtoch design here recently and rejected it. And Brian and I have the Maxtoch Xpro giving out all sorts of numbers in different tests with a variety of other LEDs. But that don't make an ideal hunter...

    What we're after is a set of criteria - very light weight, all-purpose function (rifle mounted or handheld), simple switching (no fanciful mode banks - press twice and ask for Lulu!), very good colour tint (CRI or colour rendition index for best target picture), beam balance (long range centre hotspot plus spill to scan paddocks), max runtimes, absolute cutting edge tech (latest LEDS and advances in electronic circuitry), and extreme performance (knowing 99.5% of night shooting is under 300m).

    I still think there's a place for a good Lightforce if shooting off a truck or quad all night, but having said that, Quentin developed a bit of wizardry to run his Maxtochs straight off the quad.
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    I recently changed out the driver on my original 2X so I can use a input voltage from 7V - 18V, so have plenty of options for the wired battery arrangement. Currently running a 4S 16000mAh lipo, but can plug into the quad, truck lighter socket etc. Run times in the days, rather than hours with the larger Lipo packs.
    If anyone is handy with a soldering iron, I have a couple of the remote battery adapters I'm willing to part with for the cost of postage. @gadgetman - something you would be interested in?
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    the absolute best set up Ive used from a vechile was a BIG spotlight on roof with a TBar handle down into cab...shooter would find bunny,driver then took over light,shooter got in behind rifle while still in seat,driver stopped vechile with bunny in a certain spot on windscreen eg about two inches above end of wiper blade.shooter would have bunny in scope,phiit splat,drive over,open door and lean out,pick up bunny chuck on back,close door carry on as before.

    effortless as we had sorted out best position for shooter and the driver put target into that position .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    the absolute best set up Ive used from a vechile was a BIG spotlight on roof with a TBar handle down into cab...shooter would find bunny,driver then took over light,shooter got in behind rifle while still in seat,driver stopped vechile with bunny in a certain spot on windscreen eg about two inches above end of wiper blade.shooter would have bunny in scope,phiit splat,drive over,open door and lean out,pick up bunny chuck on back,close door carry on as before.

    effortless as we had sorted out best position for shooter and the driver put target into that position .
    @223nut sound familiar ?

 

 

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