can you imagine the pest animal increase if all lands were turned to crop farms
can you imagine the pest animal increase if all lands were turned to crop farms
Sorry to be off-message with the forum, but I thought it was well understood that meat production requires more land than crop production. The animals have to eat something. Happy to be corrected though.
MB (definitely not a vegetarian!)
Meat and dairy farming does take up more space and resources but provides a lot more protein for the space. I'm not saying organic veg farming is bad, it's great, but if we were to switch to veganism worldwide we would need masses more quinoa, amaranth and black beans etc. to be grown. Usually when a market in those kinds of items expands rapidly what happens is poorer countries that don't have the luxury of making environmentally friendly choices rip up subsistence farmers (and usually rainforests) to sell/lease the land to farming corps. It happened with quinoa in central America where the locals used to live on milk, meat and potatoes from their farms, got paid to mass produce quinoa, it got shipped to vegans in Auckland and the farmers found they had barely enough money to buy their food. Then when that hipster food fad ends they're screwed, the industry leaves, stops paying them all together and they starve for a few years while they convert their family farm back to how they used to operate...if they can.
https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e-truth-quinoa
It's the dark side of hipster vegan food trends.
Not to get too haughty but the best way I can think of getting food is getting it yourself. From the garden or the hill. And that's my aim.
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hell i only eats spuds and onions as vege. no fruit and no f...ing salad even in a burger
i am doomed
Sandra Kyle: All hunting is animal cruelty - NZ Herald
Just skimmed an old one of hers from 2015. She really, really hates hunters.
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dont know who,s maimais she,s bbeen in but blasting from the skys ???
aint seen to much of that over the last oh 10 years dopey cow.
she trying to make duck life like a episode of shortland street.
she,s after your arse massive
picked off she is dreaming more like the birds are unlucky enough to run into patterns thrown left right behind an occassionaly in front.
she forgot to add ''they are so crass they eat feasts over the dead carcasses of these fallen heroes of the bird world and toast threr murderous intent''
lady are you interested in sex and travelling?
Utter sjw bull paki written by a snowflake who will melt during opening weekend.....
Grouchy Smurf had it right all along...
Nuff said, have another blade of grass you meat hating bstards.
NO PUDDING FOR YOU
It's all fun and games till Darthvader comes along
I respect your beliefs but don't impose them on me.
Don’t know @P38 ask a Donkey our sheep from the Middle East
It's all fun and games till Darthvader comes along
I respect your beliefs but don't impose them on me.
@Lore you hit the nail on the head....just add that when we get to this stage we will have to wipe out all animals as they will be eating our food source hence becoming pests. Thanks but I really like animals not only because there made of meat. If you go to the coal face of conservation you will find that hunters do most of the hard yards and spend the most money on increasing the habitat of there duck ponds and wet lands. Point that out to the next vegan that try’s to convert you. Just ask this question when’s the last time you planted a tree, cleaned a pond built nesting box’s? Oh if you think I’m all talk here’s what I made over the weekend.
Them be the four rappers, nesting house above.
It's all fun and games till Darthvader comes along
I respect your beliefs but don't impose them on me.
Yea Sideshow but the vegan idea of hunting is that these hapless creatures need the protection of brave vegans. Not that they have developed ways of surviving. If you've ever watched Life Below Zero (if not check it out) there was a guy called Glen (I think) who lived alone in the Brookes Range of Alaska with no machinery. One day while he was out hunting he says, "There are no animals that evolved to be food for other animals. Everything out here is trying to survive, even the plants and trees don't want to be eaten." The idea vegoes have is that you walk into a field and shoot into the sky and some cute ducks fall out of the sky ready to eat. Because they don't understand the hours and hours it takes to create a habitat, train a dog, maintain a gun, process meat, hide yourself, have patience and stealth, etc., etc. (neither do I but I'm working on it). And that's not to say anything about the generations that incrementally developed and passed down these tools and skills. Same with all kinds of hunting.
When you simplify the process to it's grossest terms you can have the luxury of acting as if it's the lowest form of human behavior, not the highest.
We don't stop playing because we grow old,
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I think these campaigns are particularly visceral against hunters because of the perception that we enjoy killing. Common sense arguments about pest control and crop protection fall in deaf ears. They’re not interested, it’s about animal welfare whatever the wider costs.
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