Thread: The Braque d’Auvergne

Agreed.

When hunting was more widespread the niche breeds were maintained. As this declines so do these breeds and only the most popular survive.

The irony is that 150ish years ago it was feared that the introduction of the English breeds would cause the extinction of the continentals.

Now it seems the reverse is true as in the UK GSPs outpace English Setters in registrations 6 to 1 and Pointers nearly 2 to 1

Yes and the Vizsla has a quite a following...

Originally Posted by RCGSP

The irony is that 150ish years ago it was feared that the introduction of the English breeds would cause the extinction of the continentals.

Now it seems the reverse is true as in the UK GSPs outpace English Setters in registrations 6 to 1 and Pointers nearly 2 to 1

are you referring to he USA or NZ

Originally Posted by el borracho

are you referring to he USA or NZ

No, the UK.

I think it is narrow minded to say they will become extinct, maybe in one country sure. So the ES isn't doing well in UK - Italy whelps 20,000 a year, mainly all loosely working bred. Scandinavia has a large following, Norway alone has an ES club membership of 5000 individuals.

Originally Posted by el borracho

are you referring to he USA or NZ

A long time ago it was feared that in continental Europe the English breeds would take over. Now it seems the continental breeds are taking over England.

The GSP is the most popular pointing breed in the US by far.

And as for these Braque D'Avocados, You have to see them for what they are - a regional breeding of a strain of older pointing braque breeds. nothing more, nothing less.

Originally Posted by RCGSP

A long time ago it was feared that in continental Europe the English breeds would take over. Now it seems the continental breeds are taking over England.

The GSP is the most popular pointing breed in the US by far.

yes ,its sad

The ES isn't popular in the UK that's for sure. Nothing to do with the breed, but with changing shooting method's and money. Money kills anything. I own Laverack's book and in there he somewhere claims that he enjoys it a lot more shooting game over his dogs with a friend than driven. Where in the UK would you find an owner of a larger estate that abandons driven game and prefers to shoot game over dogs with one or two friends?? All estates are stuffed up with 1000's even 10000's of birds, keepers, tractors, .... and these investment has to pay buy selling days ( or making syndicates) with big days. On this type of shoots an pointing dog has no place. Even a true "hunter" spaniel has no more place there. The true spaniel with only one goal, finding game. These days you see those flashy white robots which look spectacular but don't hunt. Why is the vizsla so popular, because it's a breed that doesn't take to much ground when hunting. The EP, ES and the wider ranging continentals like the Brittany's and the GSP are very popular in France, Italy and Spain. Why? They have a free hunting system, where 2 or 3 shooting pals go out and shoot a few head a day. They need a wider ranging dog to find what is there. They don't hunt grounds where you walk over the (released) pheasants.
It's a shame that the changed way of shooting would ruin a breed.

We do have a few Auvergne's here, but not a lot.

great to have input from a European perspective Hales Smut