Thread: Non toxic subgauge ammo

This is the Bismuth shot I got, I’m no expert but not sure on the plating.

At that price you should be making jewelry out of it not shotgun loads. Be interesting to see how it patterns.

Originally Posted by Perazzimx8

This is the Bismuth shot I got, I’m no expert but not sure on the plating.Attachment 160903

the only bismuth ive seen was much darker
so fingers crossed thats the plated stuff

At that price you should be making jewelry out of it not shotgun loads. Be interesting to see how it patterns.

if we were economists instead of bird hunters waterfowling/upland bird hunting would have died long ago

Originally Posted by gsp follower

the only bismuth ive seen was much darker
so fingers crossed thats the plated stuff

if we were economists instead of bird hunters waterfowling/upland bird hunting would have died long ago

True, if I was stupid enough to price up what my roast duck actually cost me............

Originally Posted by Got-ya

True, if I was stupid enough to price up what my roast duck actually cost me............

was a change of undies called for

Originally Posted by gsp follower

was a change of undies called for

Lets just say a Tegal chicken looked bloody cheep.

Originally Posted by Got-ya

Lets just say a Tegal chicken looked bloody cheep.

agreed but thats the problem.
compared to a fat juicy sizzling roast ,mallard
tegal,s not even in the hunt roast spuds and kumara/pumpkin not with standing

Yip which is why I still do it. Shot my first duck at 10 years old and now nearly 40 years later I have never missed an Opening. Numbers up here are nothing what they used to be though. the lower Waikato used to be called the duck factory of NZ, that has not been the case since the late ninety's.
Which reminds me, time to go spray the pond.

Picked up the slab today hopefully get out to pattern it through all the chokes soon. Giles has another slab in stock currently, $35 a packet or $270 a slab.

shippment of reloading supplies arrived.

Originally Posted by southernman

shippment of reloading supplies arrived.Attachment 162361Attachment 162362

is the itx 10 shot sizes comparable to lead or steel
IE do you have to go up or is it so hard/dense you can go down in sizes even

Originally Posted by gsp follower

is the itx 10 shot sizes comparable to lead or steel
IE do you have to go up or is it so hard/dense you can go down in sizes even

Its roughly the same size as comparable lead, slightly less dense, but can be pushed faster,
I mostly shoot a #4 7/8 oz load, at 1450fps in my 16ga for ducks, swats them out of the sky to 50m or so.

Great thread. I have purchased a couple of kilos of bismuth for a 7/8 oz load for the 20ga. I am still searching around for 28ga steel so my 11 year old daughter shoot some ducks aswell, it is a pity that Fish and Game didn't include the 28ga in the lead exemptions like the 410.

Silly question.
Is 410 ammo as expensive in comparison to 12g overseas?
Just talking standard lead, not the tungsten Turkey stuff

in typical high handed f&g fashion thier mags report on 20 gauge steel is full of shit.
the high handed test of ammo seemingly unavailable to us common hunters, just proves how out of touch they still are.
expensive duplex loads and drylock steel unavailable in your usual haunts
or 39 t0 49 a box black cloud.and speed shock steel ive never seen in 20 gauge.
if your going to do tests tell us where we can source the ammo the retail price.
not that we subcidised you into ''a case of drylock steel''available from where by the way for the tests