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Cheers Happy

Yeah Happy, i got the same email.....after cutting 'our season' by half but still charging the same fee, they're now talking about banning 'motorised decoys' !!!!!!....whats next, you cant bring a shottie......FFS

Originally Posted by Scouser

Yeah Happy, i got the same email.....after cutting 'our season' by half but still charging the same fee, they're now talking about banning 'motorised decoys' !!!!!!....whats next, you cant bring a shottie......FFS

Sweet cheep decs and shotties for us down south .

Originally Posted by Scouser

Yeah Happy, i got the same email.....after cutting 'our season' by half but still charging the same fee, they're now talking about banning 'motorised decoys' !!!!!!....whats next, you cant bring a shottie......FFS

The reason i posted this?......if we have a 'daily limit'....its still a 'daily limit' if we use motorised decoys or not!!!!....whats next, no Duck callers, no duck decoys....makes no fukin sense, really getting sick of the bullshit......

Originally Posted by Scouser

The reason i posted this?......if we have a 'daily limit'....its still a 'daily limit' if we use motorised decoys or not!!!!....whats next, no Duck callers, no duck decoys....makes no fukin sense, really getting sick of the bullshit......

You are right limit is the limit. Maybe there are still heaps of people out there taking too many ?? We ll be allowed two dekes and no more than 3 rounds of ammo per person in the mai mai ha ha ha

They are trying really hard to limit your take to less than the daily limit... Lets see what next season brings ... My pond is looking awesome with the spring growth..

Save themselves $300,000 and just ban steel

I Wasn't posting about any of the above. More about the fact they at least got a big ass research event well under way and the stories in the article about decimation of the ducks nests and ducklings that they have seen with the cameras. The results will be interesting when they come in Its looking like nearly everything they got pics of has been eaten by some kinda pest ..

The Vid on their faceplant page of the kitten is scary. Its tiny yet two visits from that and another in one night.... Not to mention Ficin Harry Hawk with a whole egg in its fuckin gob ...

Yes I m as pissed as everyone with their total apparent lack of knowledge and effort and dont start me on the fees ....

But gotta give David and Waikato team some kudos for their

efforts as I m sure they are doing the hard yards as well.. So stop shooting wild cats and hawks you se buggers ... ¡ ☺☺☺☺

Got some wild cat targeting to do this weekend actually ...

Cheers Happy

If they put hawks on the pest list it could help.

Puts all the efforts of reducing season length/bag limits into perspective. The real problem seems to be lack of suitable habitat, where ducks can raise a brood to maturity, and provide ample food and safety for adult birds. It is no wonder that up here in the North, habitat has shrunk considerably over the last 50 years, and so have duck numbers. I have a sneaking suspicion that encouraging the fencing of drains, and planting cover in those margins, would have a greater effect than reducing the season length. That would require buy-in from farmers etc. Unfortunately, the "dirty dairying" campaign by F&G, although commendable for cleaning up waterways, will mean that farmers are unlikely to buy in to any fencing/planting initiative.
Bloody hell Happy - see what you have started. It's me ranting again.

Originally Posted by Lentil

Puts all the efforts of reducing season length/bag limits into perspective. The real problem seems to be lack of suitable habitat, where ducks can raise a brood to maturity, and provide ample food and safety for adult birds. It is no wonder that up here in the North, habitat has shrunk considerably over the last 50 years, and so have duck numbers. I have a sneaking suspicion that encouraging the fencing of drains, and planting cover in those margins, would have a greater effect than reducing the season length. That would require buy-in from farmers etc. Unfortunately, the "dirty dairying" campaign by F&G, although commendable for cleaning up waterways, will mean that farmers are unlikely to buy in to any fencing/planting initiative.
Bloody hell Happy - see what you have started. It's me ranting again.

I know what you are saying. IMO you're quite right It's bloody hard work !, Did you know it's not ranting so long as you making sense !,

Cheers Happy

FFS ok heres my little piss fueled rant.

Didn't read the links Happy cause I read the replies that sums it up

The farmer campain Lentil is in full force with fonterra having all waterways fenced!

Those bloody cats yes they disapear around this neighbourhood....except Sylvester

And those farkin hawks are on schedule 2 now so shoot the fukas

I Wasn't posting about any of the above. More about the fact they at least got a big ass research event well under way and the stories in the article about decimation of the ducks nests and ducklings that they have seen with the cameras. The results will be interesting when they come in Its looking like nearly everything they got pics of has been eaten by some kinda pest ..

Yeah Happy, i read them too....nearly all the Duck clutches wiped out.....total crap......

Puts all the efforts of reducing season length/bag limits into perspective. The real problem seems to be lack of suitable habitat, where ducks can raise a brood to maturity, and provide ample food and safety for adult birds. It is no wonder that up here in the North, habitat has shrunk considerably over the last 50 years, and so have duck numbers. I have a sneaking suspicion that encouraging the fencing of drains, and planting cover in those margins, would have a greater effect than reducing the season length. That would require buy-in from farmers etc. Unfortunately, the "dirty dairying" campaign by F&G, although commendable for cleaning up waterways, will mean that farmers are unlikely to buy in to any fencing/planting initiative.

Yeah Lentil, and even 'if' they get rid of the pest species (fish) the waterways are still fouled for the duck population....total crap again

I'm not sure why anyone needed to read the article or Mallard Research page in order to understand that predation of nests and newly hatched ducklings had a huge impact on the productivity of our Gamebirds. If you did, then you must be living under a rock or have your head in the sand about the extent of the problems with our Gamebird populations! All its doing it quantifying what you should have already known FFS!

So since all those who have posted on this thread have read about the effects to date (even on that very small sample size!), how many of you are getting off your arses this weekend and setting traplines to reduce the predator population? Its eaasy to piss and moan and demand a reduction in licence fees, but few put their money where their mouth is and go do something about it.

Originally Posted by gqhoon

I'm not sure why anyone needed to read the article or Mallard Research page in order to understand that predation of nests and newly hatched ducklings had a huge impact on the productivity of our Gamebirds. If you did, then you must be living under a rock or have your head in the sand about the extent of the problems with our Gamebird populations! All its doing it quantifying what you should have already known FFS!

So since all those who have posted on this thread have read about the effects to date (even on that very small sample size!), how many of you are getting off your arses this weekend and setting traplines to reduce the predator population? Its eaasy to piss and moan and demand a reduction in licence fees, but few put their money where their mouth is and go do something about it.

I actually started the thread as a demonstration that our fees in Waikato were being put to some use. Not as a bitch session. Its pointless moaning about fees anyway as they are set in Head Office without input from the areas.
Bit like moaning about motorcycle rego costs really similar story ...
I was actually impressed by the research efforts being done. As to living with your head in the sand no. Theres heaps of reasons for species decline , hundreds its been discussed.
Everyone has to do as much as they can in preserving and creating safer places for the quackers and their quacklings ... I think you may have thought I posted to start a row ??? Wrong !!!
Our crew plants, traps, weed sprays , kill the shit out of pests and fences the four ponds we have. We have heaps of ducks there and don't shoot all of them either.


Cheers Happy

Originally Posted by Happy

I actually started the thread as a demonstration that our fees in Waikato were being put to some use.

It is actually our Southland licence fees that I have been paying for the last 26 years that have helped build up Southland Fish and Game reserves which are being put to some use not your Waikato fees!!!! it is only staff time which would be being used anyway that Waikato is contributing!!!

There is one person behind giving away Southlands money, the same person who is going to stop us using lead!!! his days are numbered!!!