Thread: STUFF ;CANADA GEESE

I think one of the problems is that some still think they are protected and dont realise they are now same as a myna or magpie- can be shot anywhere any time with whatever - legal permission on property of course

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

I think one of the problems is that some still think they are protected and dont realise they are now same as a myna or magpie- can be shot anywhere any time with whatever - legal permission on property of course

For sure, I thought they were duck shooting season only.

In South Africa there is a bird called a quelea that flocks in huge numbers and is an agricultural pest. The video below shows how they target nesting sites when things get bad.
https://youtu.be/uTZ_zz6wMtA

yeah that will do it quelea done and dusted

I thought Fed Farmers where going to take care of the CG problem , and that's why they lobbied to get them on to pest list ?

Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS

I thought Fed Farmers where going to take care of the CG problem , and that's why they lobbied to get them on to pest list ?

Probably still trying to organise their way out of a wet paper bag.

the problem lies with the Regional Councils and DOC

Weird how yoy can shoot cg in or on or around water with anything including lead buckshot but not allowed lead shot for other wildfowl. I reckon more hunters woyld be into them jf the ammo rules were reverted. Cant use leaf on geese near water during bird season ffs.

Always the same, I thought I would be a useful person during the earthquakes, older, level headed, seen my share of industrial accidents.
Felt somewhat useless as it was controlled & was told straight, you are not required.

So relevant onwards, have contacted & worked for local bodies, offered to sort these bird problems. I’m discreet & careful, fully set up with all the gear and time, can recruit a dozen other senior people, with the same gear PCP air rifles & night vision, thermals. Costs would be minimal, basically doing it for nicks , GC some would even make use of them, present economic climate.

Frustrating really, authorities moan about these situations, yet they are too risk adverse & PC to make things happen.
Embarrassed Kiwi. Gone are the days of, Roll your sleeves up & get on with it !

Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS

I thought Fed Farmers where going to take care of the CG problem , and that's why they lobbied to get them on to pest list ?

Federated Farmers lobbied for Geese to be taken off the license to that they could be controlled at any time of the year by anyone. The obligation for control shifted from Fish and Game to Councils, Central Government and Farmers. Farmers to a reasonable extent, with the help of recreational hunters, are doing their part, but Councils and Central Government (DOC) are not.

DOC some years ago organised a mass cull on Ellesmere primarily but also other lakes in the canterbury region.Initially they invited all interested parties to assist in the planning of the operation including recreational shooters via a recently formed "organisation".

One day out of the blue i gets a call from TV3 reporter to say the geese were being massacred and what did I know about it?i referred them to a spokesman as i recoiled "WTF is going on"

Yup TV3 gleefully showed wounded ,dead and dying birds covering the lake-but a portion of the tally,a lot we discovered later on a skeletal remains amongst the marshy scrub on the lake verges -no doubt they crawled in there to die painfully .Next w/e the lake was chocka with persons cleaning up the evidence of their efforts

They also choppered a certain high country lake leading to mortally injured birds dragging themselves onto SH 73 -great look for our bloody tourism industry .

DOC on realisng they fucked up majorly promptly placed the clown who authorised it on leave -we found this out when a very very pissed off colleague of mine fronted them demanding answers. Oops somehow I was able to see the paperwork giving all the names etc as the guilty party inexplicably gave an enraged shooter a copy ,or was this an attempt to mollify him???

Suffice to say excavator loads of the stinky stuff was hurled into the revolving blade as DOC ducked for cover.The incumbent Min of conservation at the time was also a casualty handing in her ticket shortly after.

Oh yes youll love this -as a local chopper was used to herd the geese CAA regs didnt allow the use of steel ammo around choppers..steel which is statutory regulations for ellesmere so lead was used -10,000 rounds to be precise sourced from a hunting franchise sold by a self appointed expert recreational goose shooter,.

Overall a gigantic clusterfuck which simply made canadas very paranoid for quite some years and fucking hard to shoot . Some DOC staff got very embarrassed when it was mentioned others rolled their eyes"bosses couldnt be bloody told"

The Christchurch earthquakes were a golden opportunity for the canadas -as eastern chch reverted to jungle (gotta love those greenies eh what) the canadas moved in en masse.I saw mobs of 100or more regularly on the Avon River and realised then if they went unchecked again shit would hit fan .sure enough its happened but what efforts have been made seem few and far between ,although a lot of it seems to be influenced by public reactions and perceptions as we have had the misfortune to bear the brunt of recently

Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS

I thought Fed Farmers where going to take care of the CG problem , and that's why they lobbied to get them on to pest list ?

I'm not sure whether the situation actually got better or is worse since Feds were successful there?

It's funny in a way how history repeats, Federated Farmers are now making noises about ducks also being taken out of gamebird status to allow a free-for-all.

As usual, I'm sure there's no shortage of willing hunters, the problem is land access.