Thread: Crayfishing for chumps

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

If you are on tapa talk that is the way it is now it would seem, my old pay version of it I cant even find to install on new phone

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Ba ha ha ha ha.

Actually I am sure I could if I put my mind to it!

Seems to be a lot of people that would be in trouble with MOF if they got caught as it is 6 cray's per day per active diver only, nothing for the skipper or boatman, and for scallops 20 per diver North Island and 50 most of South Island and 2 x limits for 2 boat men, or a limit per person helping with the dredge.
But check limits as some areas are different.

I'm with Dave on the rules 6 per diver , skipper not count .
Best bait is fresh! I prefer barracuda , then sea perch frames . And don't be shy . Plenty of theory's but the ones that I believe true . Pots fish better after a soaking , bigger pots and heavy pots fish better . Make sure the yoke attached to pot has a small float .

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Hey @P38 can you link the relevant rules on the skippers quota please Pete?

All I can find is that when a diver is gathering scallops the diver may gather limits for up to two safety persons on the boat but nothing on diving for crayfish?

@veitnamcam

Best way to know for sure is to get it straight from the Horses Mouth.

Give MPI a ring and have a chat to a Fisheries Officer.

But this is what it says on the MPI Fishing Rules site for Rock Lobster

"Recreational fishing for the daily limit (6 legal rock lobster per fisher) is largely based on diving, but baited pots are also used".

MPI - Fisheries | Recreational | Popular Species | Rock Lobster (Crayfish)

One could argue that the "Skipper" is a "Fisher" as they have actively participated in "Fishing" for this species by driving the boat and by maintaining a safe watch over the vessel while the divers are collecting the catch. The divers are also "Fishers" as they actively collect the species.

Cheers
Pete

Hmmmmmmm.

It clearly states

Take scallops and dredge oysters for up to two safety people only

The regulations allow extra scallops and dredge oysters to be collected for up to two safety people. No more than two extra bag limits can be taken per vessel, regardless of how many people are diving. So, if you have one safety person on board your vessel, you may only collect one extra bag limit. If you have three safety people on board, you may only collect two extra bag limits, not three.


But says nothing of the sort for crayfish.... best inform my boss he has been breaking the law for years.

I'd go with Munsey bait like barracuda ,skippy frames or trevally with plenty of oil could even try a burly bomb .
Although was talking to a guy up the coast one evening ,he reckons all he uses for cray pots is possum(skinned)
his where usually picked up off the road. Have a collapsable pot I have yet to try myself so be interested how things go for you .

It probably doesn't matter to much what bait you use.

Baits pretty much bait and clearly everything works. You get told the golden bait is this, but someones else's is that.

I reckon if everybody who's used pots was to say what they use (this goes same for best fishing bait) You'll hear everything is the best.

@veitnamcam

Straight from the Horses Mouth.

Rang MPI and spoke with a Fisheries Officer and this is what he said.

Diving for Crays from a boat:
6 legal Crays per diver, per day.
None for anyone else on the boat.
Only those divers actively collecting the crayfish are entitled to the daily allowance.

Fishing for Crays using pots:
Only those people on board with their name and phone number clearly written on the buoy attached to a pot can collect 6 Crays per person per day
Only one name and phone number is allowed on the buoy per pot.
Those on board who do not have their name and phone number on a buoy attached to a pot are not entitled to the daily allowance even if they do assist with pulling the pots etc.

Seems clear enough.

Seems I have mistakenly been collecting for the skipper as well as the diver.

Cheers
Pete

Ha! Knew about rules ref diver but not about pots. Lots of people I know, break the rules on that one. Most likely out of ignorance but no excuse.

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Originally Posted by P38

@veitnamcam

Straight from the Horses Mouth.

Rang MPI and spoke with a Fisheries Officer and this is what he said.

Diving for Crays from a boat:
6 legal Crays per diver, per day.
None for anyone else on the boat.
Only those divers actively collecting the crayfish are entitled to the daily allowance.

Fishing for Crays using pots:
Only those people on board with their name and phone number clearly written on the buoy attached to a pot can collect 6 Crays per person per day
Only one name and phone number is allowed on the buoy per pot.
Those on board who do not have their name and phone number on a buoy attached to a pot are not entitled to the daily allowance even if they do assist with pulling the pots etc.

Seems clear enough.

Seems I have mistakenly been collecting for the skipper as well as the diver.

Cheers
Pete

You also need your name on the pot as well as the buoy , I use deer ear tags . Kaikoura fisheries are anal on that one .
I'm was of the impression you can have as many names on the buoys as you like . ( mine do and I have been checked numerous times ) . Not saying I'm right but Will check that one out . myself .

just get in water, find the weed, anything from 1m to as deep as you want to dive, look for holes/cracks that look big enough to put your arm in
and start looking
when you find one take note of the position that the sea would come in, 9 times out of 10 all the others will be facing that way so you can narrow your search

find 99% of mine in less than 5m

Originally Posted by longrange308

just get in water, find the weed, anything from 1m to as deep as you want to dive, look for holes/cracks that look big enough to put your arm in
and start looking
when you find one take note of the position that the sea would come in, 9 times out of 10 all the others will be facing that way so you can narrow your search

find 99% of mine in less than 5m

I like the sound of that...I could almost swim 5m, just a barstard the "close" spot is still 25l of fuel each way in dads boat and that's if it is calm!

cant drive and do a shore mission?