Thread: Fishing tomorrow!

Originally Posted by mikee

What about mussels cause thats what was in the buckets, I though was 50?? So i guess that means 50 mussels + 150 Cockles/tuatua per person so 200 x 6 = 1200 for one family if you included the 3 under that looks like they are under 5 + the older kid

The beds wont take a hammering like that for long, hope they don't "discover" whats on the main beach

yea mussels are 50 , 150 is a nice limit for cocklels/tuatua I think.
If only one person is able to gather for a family like I often am then 150 is only a taste/entree but if you are taking your family of 4-5-6 or more down to gather limits for all then yes that is just taking the piss and no fishery will sustain that and it needs to be stopped.

That is the trouble with these imported cultures we as a country welcome into our arms, where they come from there is no "conservation" or "fish for the future" they take everything they can from the sea stripping rocks bare of tiny little mussles and perriwinkles and anything that lives untill the coast is literally stripped bare....Rocks road case in point. When I was a lad all those rocks were covered in limpits and mussels and oysters....now its like a lawn that has been thrice sprayed with roundup.

Originally Posted by madjon_

Same mob are there on the full,with Sabiki rigs slaughtering mini Kahawai. All go in the bucket.

Well not there tonight but one of the cousins was there parked beside the road shooting an air rifle across the estuary. Unbelievable

Also often come across a net full up on the hard so any fish (small as they are) would be stranded by the falling tide and already drying.

Originally Posted by mikee

Well not there tonight but one of the cousins was there parked beside the road shooting an air rifle across the estuary. Unbelievable

Also often come across a net full up on the hard so any fish (small as they are) would be stranded by the falling tide and already drying.

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Originally Posted by mikee

What about mussels cause thats what was in the buckets, I though was 50?? So i guess that means 50 mussels + 150 Cockles/tuatua per person so 200 x 6 = 1200 for one family if you included the 3 under that looks like they are under 5 + the older kid

The beds wont take a hammering like that for long, hope they don't "discover" whats on the main beach

Yep 50 for mussels.

Also concerning children and shelfish. It is my understanding that in order to include them in your total daily catch they must..

"Actively participate in the catch"

ie, gathering, counting, measuring etc. I seriously doubt a child under 5 could remove 50 grown mussels from the rocks let alone count to 50!!

VC beat me to it but if I was you i would call MAFs 0800Poacher line and voice your concerns with them.

I once found a net in a marine reserve and gave them a buzz, they were great to deal with and even managed to get an officer out to remove the net. Pretty impressive.

To be fair i reckon they probably really appreciate calls from the public!!

The big problem with people like you have observed is that once they find an area they just don't stop !! It is up to us as kiwis to help out where we can so our kids can enjoy what we have

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

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Hard when there no cell reception in the direct area

Originally Posted by mikee

Hard when there no cell reception in the direct area

Yes i know but I also know good reception is only 2 mins away outside Bruce's range/Penguins place.

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Originally Posted by mikee

Hard when there no cell reception in the direct area

Might try and pop in tomorrow as they are just down the road from work for a chat

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yes i know but I also know good reception is only 2 mins away outside Bruce's range/Penguins place.

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Well I think (me) the MAF or MPI boys I've dealt with lately are right up there with being GC's..... 6 months ago I would have never said that after a wee experience with them, 2 were bloody good value but the young skipper boy just makes me want to do bad stuff.
The MAF boys iv'e dealt with lately are just there doing there job, while being able to have a reasonable conversation with them.......and while iv'e been on the right side off them with my dealings I actually have a lot of respect for them unlike the young skipper boy I had. I would probably make it very difficult for him next time. Much like the police I spose....deal with the good Bastards they are top blokes out there doing their job but then you get the others and unfortunately they loose all my respect.

Interesting when you talk about land based shellfish thou....Iv'e been cockling since I was a baby and never saw anyone that was interested in your take, go and get some paua and they are every where. Had a interesting conversation with the MAF boy's regarding Mussels.....50 each if they are wild or as many if you like if they are farmed. Just prove it?

Unfortunately I think the MAF boys are a bit like the police.....they just what to issue the tickets and fines (policy).

I should add, the true GC's are the ones out their volunteering there time to save peoples lives....both sea based and land based! You boy's and Girls out their doing it need a bloody big pat on the back.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

yea mussels are 50 , 150 is a nice limit for cocklels/tuatua I think.
If only one person is able to gather for a family like I often am then 150 is only a taste/entree but if you are taking your family of 4-5-6 or more down to gather limits for all then yes that is just taking the piss and no fishery will sustain that and it needs to be stopped.

That is the trouble with these imported cultures we as a country welcome into our arms, where they come from there is no "conservation" or "fish for the future" they take everything they can from the sea stripping rocks bare of tiny little mussles and perriwinkles and anything that lives untill the coast is literally stripped bare....Rocks road case in point. When I was a lad all those rocks were covered in limpits and mussels and oysters....now its like a lawn that has been thrice sprayed with roundup.

A look at the lay up warfe behind Sealords makes for interesting viewing at times.
I recently sat and watched the usual suspects of , perhaps 20 Thai/Filipinos etc catching as many tiny snapper as they could, mostly 3 at a time on bait flies, then hiding them in a bucket in the car before telling the visiting fishery officer they were not having any luck.
All this while drinking piss, smoking dope and popping under the warfe for a pee (and worse) .

Yep, I called that 0800 # and directed the officer where to look. Hopefully they got stung

All phones have video now so use it guys and then just text forward this to the person your talking too!
Be what I’d do!
Just had similar here where a coach was caught sending spy’s to another football club...his excuse oh we do that all the time back home
I travel all over the world and do my best to respect others homes and countries, laws and culture when their so how about a bit of respect for home soil
Bullocks to no undersandy English blah blah DOBB the barstools in then you understandy ah

I think MPI fisheries division are doing an outstanding job! Since I here replied to the request for thoughts on the scallop situataion and blue cod I have received regular information ( sometime way to much for me to digest) about everything from quota changes to fishery closures.

As others have stated it would seem they have had a revamp of their approach to the public ...the last dozen contacts I had with fishery officers has being friendly and informative! As well as this the general public also is above 90% complient , so we as a majority are also doing our bit to play by the rules and preserve the fishery we MPI officers ( yes they are fishermen to) and us all enjoy!

Now to the gritty stuff...they have three officers for Kaikoura and I believe a handful of volunteers , Top of the south I cannot give you honest numbers ..but let's think about every bay ramp , launching / fishing spot from Nelson to Goldenbay and the other way through the inner and outer sounds ...simply they cannot be everywhere ...so we have to support them and do our bit if you see something you consider illegal ring them , provide as many details as possible ...they will take you very seriously! We have to police our fishery from the scum that would happily steal from us all ....they are scum, they are theives, and I have (twice) and will again report them.
Both times MPI contacted me and let me know they have spoken to people individuals etc ..

The same with the Glen reserve ..except you contact DOC for some reason ..but they have a bloke on call to attend breaches it was taken seriously and attended with the police in tow due to my describition of the offenders ..ie drinking sharp knives etc ..

I encrouage you all to support these officers , we need to protect our fishery as much as them. My $1 worth !

@stingray can you find out if video footage would be admissible? ie take by a member of the public.
If so I’d recommend this approach. Walk up friendly filming as you go with lots of geewiz and wows happy as Larry.
Film the catch and how the harvesting faces and number of people. Then walk away and get car reg. Be careful around filming of kids.
Then call the fisheries officer and give them the video footage. Don’t post it on line! It may become inadmissible in court if you do.
I’d not go in all guns blazing they might be doing nothing wrong. Remember friendly face geewiz wow happy as Larry will more than likely get the results if asked why your filming well it’s to show the kids how it’s done as they have never seen anything like this.
Stay at the place till the officer arrives so you can hand over the film. Text it Bluetooth WhatsApp. Then I’d stay well back. Don’t go down pointing fingers. As much as you will want to your not going to do anyone any favours.
Just my ten cents worth.

Not sure ..I will ask ..but videoing without consent is a whole differnt ball park ...but stingray saw three persons with a sack full of or bin full of their rego is and they are driving a direction and they are leaving now ..the offence the commented is ..helped a lot ..the van in question was stopped within 20 mins.