Thread: Inshore fishing under threat?

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

A seal cull in the south island would do a lot to balance fish take and recovery imo.

You are aware that the major part of a fur seal's diet is squid, mostly off the continental shelf ?

Locking off those reefs in tga isn't going to do anything for fish stocks, it will look pretty to all the bottle diver tourists, they need to be looking at the harbours where the juvenile fish are.
The hauraki is the most depressing dive I have ever done, the bottom that was scallops and sand is now silt/mud and fan worms, there is so many issues with our fisheries and alot of it is out of sight out of mind for fishos too, people bringing up kingy heads until the sharks get full and they can bring one up is another one that people don't seem to care about.
A positive that I have seen is the crayfish in the bop, we never really looked for crays a few years ago as it was like hunting for the last ones, but the rec quota got cut by half and the comms cut by 80percent, the bounce back has been great to see, there is more numbers and now they are getting bigger, bit of a rant but there is problems on both sides(rec and comm) and also run off etc things like these where all parties are around the same table can only be good for the fisheries

How about just shopping all inshore fishing for 20 years?

I bet that 20 years down the track everyone is pleased they did it.

Times change,just like the ban on native logging in the 90s. Could you imagine people's outrage if some logging gang started a clear fell in Westland and exported the logs ?

Originally Posted by sore head stoat

You are aware that the major part of a fur seal's diet is squid, mostly off the continental shelf ?

They seem to like variety. I have watched them at the Waiau river mouth in Nth canty catching flounders. They swam all the way from the sea into lake Mckerrow and cleaned out the sea run trout - a food source that is not natural to them, so they obviously can learn and adapt.
In four years time there will be twice as many as now, what will we do then ?

No anchoring is a good point. Just imagine the carnage the 10-15 ships are causing out from Tauranga that wait there for days on end! They will be flattening everything! Some are anchoring out by mayor island

Originally Posted by Mohawk .308

I thought we were a team of 5 million

We have never been a team of five million. That is just puffery and nonsense, I for one am not on that stupid fucking team any longer and I never will be again after what has happened to the country I was once so proud of being a citizen.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

They seem to like variety. I have watched them at the Waiau river mouth in Nth canty catching flounders. They swam all the way from the sea into lake Mckerrow and cleaned out the sea run trout - a food source that is not natural to them, so they obviously can learn and adapt.
In four years time there will be twice as many as now, what will we do then ?

NO the major part of their diet is squid off the continental shelf.. variety has nothing to do with anything. Like Berg said they will eat hoki at the back of a trawler, that is opportunism just as is catching a flounder, my guess they would also eat a trout and a herring and a salmon but the major part of the fur seals diet is caught off the continental shelf and it is squid.

I have no idea what we will do in 4yrs time, lets face that IF your guess is correct ... but to go out and slaughter a heap of seals because a seal is seen eating a flounder or a salmon or supposedly cleaned out the entire sea run trout population of lake Mckerrow...nah.

the other week at 11 sitting at road works along the coast...next truck driver in que says "come look at this" walks over to road barrier and shines torch...there are seals right up next to the road...lots of them..... the barriers are there to stop them going onto road and under trucks.....bumpity bumpity bump....big meaty mess.
was awesome to see so many of them there...the changed coastline has given them MORE rocks n beach to bask on....

Originally Posted by Mohawk .308

So what do you propose? They just cruise around until it’s there time to come into the harbour? I don’t think the greenies would be too happy with that proposal

Look at putting in some big fuck off moorings? Fuck knows, whats your idea?

Originally Posted by sore head stoat

NO the major part of their diet is squid off the continental shelf.. variety has nothing to do with anything. Like Berg said they will eat hoki at the back of a trawler, that is opportunism just as is catching a flounder, my guess they would also eat a trout and a herring and a salmon but the major part of the fur seals diet is caught off the continental shelf and it is squid.

I have no idea what we will do in 4yrs time, lets face that IF your guess is correct ... but to go out and slaughter a heap of seals because a seal is seen eating a flounder or a salmon or supposedly cleaned out the entire sea run trout population of lake Mckerrow...nah.

So lets both accept that squid is the major part of their diet. Is squid always available or do they move around ? Is the squid under quota management, if it is wont the exponential growth in the seal population combined with the commercial take put the squid resource under pressure potentially collapsing it, or will seals exploit other fish as a food resource ?

Originally Posted by kukuwai

Exactly so how can we have our say and make it count?

I remember in another thread that @Russian 22. Stated that change.org was a waste of time so what Avenue should we use.

We down here will all give you our support !!

I am sure of that !!

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Any petition needs to be done through the parliament website otherwise it is much less effective and more just slack tivism.

Originally Posted by berg243

wont the white pointers take care of the extra seals now that they are protected from fishing.

I think that culled seals could be frozen whole and donated to needy polar bears

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

So lets both accept that squid is the major part of their diet. Is squid always available or do they move around ? Is the squid under quota management, if it is wont the exponential growth in the seal population combined with the commercial take put the squid resource under pressure potentially collapsing it, or will seals exploit other fish as a food resource ?

Lets deal with the known facts not what ifs eh ?

Originally Posted by Mohawk .308

They’d have to be some pretty big fuck off moorings, then some on would have to guarantee those big fuck off moorings. Be easier to just let them anchor like they have been doing for donkeys years all around the world.

Yeah that's the attitude

Originally Posted by berg243

wont the white pointers take care of the extra seals now that they are protected from fishing.

Funny how it seems that racialism eventually rears it's ugly head. I've seen all manner of people pointing out to sea. White pointers indeed...