Thread: what reel/rod combo for deep water?

Originally Posted by kiwijames

No

ok didnt think so. i looked at those accurate rods etc they look pretty good so might go into the local shop and see what theyre like in hand

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Why not?

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They are just not made for it. Not enough spool capacity for deep stuff and typically high gear ratios for fast retrieves. Sure you could use one but you won't see a commercial boat ever use one. A fixed spool reel with enough balls to winch up half ad pound of lead plus a 30kg fish (who usually doesn't want to) is not really an option (considering what else is available).

Ok just see the Matt Watson and big angry fish payed advertisements using them.

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Also why do they use bloody great long rods for big fighting fish? makes more sense to use a shorter powerful rod for more leverage to me.

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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Ok just see the Matt Watson and big angry fish payed advertisements using them.

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Not seen the ad but my guess is the fish in the ad will a pelagic (kingi, tuna, billfish)? No great need for large capacity, plus you can always chase with the boat if it starts looking close.
The rod often needs to be a compromise. Long rods are good to get you line around, over or to where you want. Puka fishing though needs little finesse and a broom handle will suffice.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

They are just not made for it. Not enough spool capacity for deep stuff and typically high gear ratios for fast retrieves. Sure you could use one but you won't see a commercial boat ever use one. A fixed spool reel with enough balls to winch up half ad pound of lead plus a 30kg fish (who usually doesn't want to) is not really an option (considering what else is available).

Agree with the practicallity issues of puka fishing with an egg beater but your statement about capacity (if you mean line capacity) is bollocks. Diawa saltist dog fight gets 500m of 37 easy.

Originally Posted by Gibo

Agree with the practicallity issues of puka fishing with an egg beater but your statement about capacity (if you mean line capacity) is bollocks. Diawa saltist dog fight gets 500m of 37 easy.

Wow that's huge. 37kg braid or nylon? Never been a big user of fixed spool but I knew they have really beefed up a few top end ones. Is the Saltist up there with the likes of the Shimano Stellar? Still winching up 500m of line with a eggbeater sounds like little fun to me. Winching fish in general is fucking boring anyway.

Originally Posted by kiwijames

Wow that's huge. 37kg braid or nylon? Never been a big user of fixed spool but I knew they have really beefed up a few top end ones. Is the Saltist up there with the likes of the Shimano Stellar? Still winching up 500m of line with a eggbeater sounds like little fun to me. Winching fish in general is fucking boring anyway.

Sorry bro, saltiga not saltist
Agree that winching fish is boring. I dont bother much anymore. Rather scrap out a kingi. I was on the receiving end of a good lesson when puka fishing out a mayor one day. Got dam near dragged over when fishing at 300m deep, had me fucked for 1hr 55mins, get a hundy take a hundy and so on. Then the circle hook let go Never saw it but the hook when we looked at it was now a dull gray and the other was still shinny and new. I suspect it was hooked in somethings gut as there were rub marks on the trace 500mm either side of the hook! Good knows what it was but it was a demon Bout the only fun ive had puka fishing.
Have seen one with 500m of 37. Yes they are same or more than a stella

Daiwa New Saltiga Dogfight 7000

Originally Posted by Gibo

Sorry bro, saltiga not saltist
Agree that winching fish is boring. I dont bother much anymore. Rather scrap out a kingi. I was on the receiving end of a good lesson when puka fishing out a mayor one day. Got dam near dragged over when fishing at 300m deep, had me fucked for 1hr 55mins, get a hundy take a hundy and so on. Then the circle hook let go Never saw it but the hook when we looked at it was now a dull gray and the other was still shinny and new. I suspect it was hooked in somethings gut as there were rub marks on the trace 500mm either side of the hook! Good knows what it was but it was a demon Bout the only fun ive had puka fishing.
Have seen one with 500m of 37. Yes they are same or more than a stella

Daiwa New Saltiga Dogfight 7000

I wish we had worthwhile salt water fishing in HB. I was spoilt living in the Mount as well as a few overseas locations. I used to love going to the Mayor , especially when it was free. We had some good nights there. Diving Tuhua on the way home was cool. You were often the Pied Piper with a procession of rat kingis following you around.

Most of the charter boats going out for Puka would use the Daiwa SL900. Ugly but bullet proof. Good cost effective option.

worth a look?

@Proudkiwi also had a nice setup for sale at a great price too.

Fuck that forum is ugly! What a shit colour and layout

Originally Posted by Gibo

Fuck that forum is ugly! What a shit colour and layout

You have just seen "the other forum" that we refer to