Thread: Chinese owner fights access

Originally Posted by Dead is better

Probably didnt want to clean up after tourists leaving their garbage everywhere.

He certainly didnt want people accessing the Free ,Public ,Hut...while he was marketing his own Private hut...both within easy tramping distance of each other... he appears to be screwed (somewhat) after the recent judicial ruling, and future owners will be unable to deny access. Shame on the silent NZ partner who 'enabled' this somewhat by his lack of 'involvement', when he knew full-well what was going on. There's no scum worse than rich scum, who should know better..only a sudden 'Pole-Shift', will sort the problems of this world

I know this happened a few years ago, and ended up with the Chinese fellow having to sell it because of refusing walking access to the hut. However it is my understanding that the new owner (kiwi) has done the exact same thing and is denying access. How does that work? Surely there must be public access up the creek to the hut now after all that cafuffal with the oio etc. Would seem like a double standard otherwise.

Theres never been a legal walking access up the river.
Because the new owner is a kiwi so I guess the oio is out of it now.
they don't use the doc hut as part of their walk.

Originally Posted by Brian

Used to go up there a lot before the station was sold. There was no legal access. It was a condition by the overseas investment office he agreed to and now hes trying to back out.
Access is up the river most of the tourist walk is on the hills they only walk the river on the last day for about 2 hours. We used to drive up the river to the DOC land and no tourists complained.
A lot of them liked to have a chat. The owner dosen't spend much time there.

Just ram a boat into it and claim you own it now. They will understand

Originally Posted by Brian

Used to go up there a lot before the station was sold. There was no legal access. It was a condition by the overseas investment office he agreed to and now hes trying to back out.
Access is up the river most of the tourist walk is on the hills they only walk the river on the last day for about 2 hours. We used to drive up the river to the DOC land and no tourists complained.
A lot of them liked to have a chat. The owner dosen't spend much time there.

One of my frequent spots back in the sixties.
On a slightly different course, these stupid reporters should get their facts right, the pinnacles are miles away from Kawakawa station.

Let's turn it around, and say this happened with a Kiwi protagonist in China... oh, that's right - as a Kiwi, you can't own land in China. End of story. (Technically, you can own 1 residential property as a foreigner)

The contract terms he agreed to need to be enforced, or walking access get really will be open to a lot more contest.

Funny how when a "chinese" national does it everybody looses their shit and john key and yada yada yada...

Once a kiwi owner blocks access everybody is quiet!

@STC - I believe NZ should mirror the policy of the foreigner's home country when purchasing NZ land - not just Chinese, but every country.

From @rotto comment, if a Kiwi is doing the same thing and blocking access, legal action should be taken if it goes against the contract conditions.

Originally Posted by STC

Funny how when a "chinese" national does it everybody looses their shit and john key and yada yada yada...

Once a kiwi owner blocks access everybody is quiet!

oh dear..your not suggesting people are being racially biased are you???? surely not???
if access has been lost its bad for all,if access was never a legal thing ,it was never a legal thing...if as it seems,access was made a "thing" BECAUSE of a foreign owner...and its no longer in foreign ownership...well join the dots...its no longer a "thing" now is it....
Te Urawera anyone???? the biggest mistake in that case was who ownership was handed over too,who stewardship was handed over too.... and how the wording of such has been done...the sooner we all become ngati kiwi (the tribe of new zealanders whatever the colour of their bum)the better....all public land and I mean ALL public land should be forever owned by ngati kiwi and never be able to be sold/traded or given away to anyone else.

I have it on good understanding that he same is happening up the Poulter river area near Mt White Station just past Cass.

The american owner of a significant station is trying to block access to the public, an area that has been frequented by 4wd clubs and others for years. The Combined 4wd Clubs of Canterury group are looking into it.

Originally Posted by Twodiffs

I have it on good understanding that he same is happening up the Poulter river area near Mt White Station just past Cass.

The american owner of a significant station is trying to block access to the public, an area that has been frequented by 4wd clubs and others for years. The Combined 4wd Clubs of Canterury group are looking into it.

@Twodiffs which Station are you referring to?

Originally Posted by STC

Funny how when a "chinese" national does it everybody looses their shit and john key and yada yada yada...

Once a kiwi owner blocks access everybody is quiet!

No, anyone who interferes with legal public right of access is a shitcunt.

Originally Posted by STC

Funny how when a "chinese" national does it everybody looses their shit and john key and yada yada yada...

Once a kiwi owner blocks access everybody is quiet!

Would be interesting to see if you did the equivalent in China and see how the local react.

Originally Posted by Beavis

No, anyone who interferes with legal public right of access is a shitcunt.

100% agreed and exactly my point

Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

Would be interesting to see if you did the equivalent in China and see how the local react.

You missed the point.

Happening everywhere and for ages, just try to access Mt Richmond forest park DOC land thru any of the "public easements" thru forestry
.https://www.stuff.co.nz/marlborough-express/news/133327179/the-conservation-land-blocked-off-to-the-public
At least someone is trying to take them to task
https://www.thepost.co.nz/environmen...-certification