Thread: First aid kit pics

@kukuwai have used needle and vials before and much prefer the Epipen. Drawing up medications is fine in a controlled environment with no pressure, if I'm reacting I want adrenaline NOW.

Epipen is also designed to be idiot proof, drawing medications and swapping needles etc is not something our average Joe blogs should be doing.

Originally Posted by 223nut

@kukuwai have used needle and vials before and much prefer the Epipen. Drawing up medications is fine in a controlled environment with no pressure, if I'm reacting I want adrenaline NOW

Fair enough. Personal preference i guess

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Maybe a bit of a hijack but its Scary as all shit when someone allergic gets stung. Tramping in the coromandels years age we stood in a wasp nest. Both take off at high speed downhill after were clear Peter starts stuttering about stings and adrenaline while going into shock.
I rummage his pack and find an ampule and syringe in a plastic tube no instructions, hes no help now, I shatter the ampule opening it shit, it broke over a poncho, so shaking like a leaf I suck up all i can and jab it in his leg over a couple of goes.
Must have done ok. We still tramp together but now he carries an epipen, and Ive got one in my kit even though unaffected.
How you would handle the syringe and ampule on your own under pressure beats me.

a roll of insulation tape.
i am serious. you can use it to secure gauze, bandages and is better at holding on in wet environments. van be used to hold splints/supports in place. and in general bloody handy to have if your 4wd etc busts a radiator hose etc. costs bugger all, lasts forever if you keep it in the cool and away from too much sunlight

Originally Posted by gonetropo

a roll of insulation tape.
i am serious. you can use it to secure gauze, bandages and is better at holding on in wet environments. van be used to hold splints/supports in place. and in general bloody handy to have if your 4wd etc busts a radiator hose etc. costs bugger all, lasts forever if you keep it in the cool and away from too much sunlight

It's great stuff.
Only thing though, is if your going to put it right around (and that is the only way it will work anyway) a finger or arm etc... don't just roll the roll around it. You need to pull off 300-400mm and let it contract for a couple of seconds. Then gently wrap around. If you dont, it tightens up on your finger, to the point of cutting off blood supply.

Also helpful to fold over the last bit on its self - makes it easier to get off.....

Now that's a blood handy hint about it shrinking cheers Beaker

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Maybe a bit of a hijack but its Scary as all shit when someone allergic gets stung. Tramping in the coromandels years age we stood in a wasp nest....

Did the same in the Kaimai's once, I kicked the nest open and my mate was following. We were in a huge stand of supplejack and had nowhere to run... so we just froze. It was the hardest thing to do - remain frozen while dozens of wasps buzz around you looking for revenge. Thankfully we were well covered and not in shorts and t-shirts. Mate got one hit on the knee but aside from that we got away with it. Standing still for 15 minutes wasn't much fun but the alternative wasn't worth considering.

I hate those bastard wasps. Miserable little fuckers.

Originally Posted by BruceY

After 32 years SAR training....2 items....condoms (non-lubricated if possible) Uses: protecting wounds on hands, feet, toes & digits, great ties / tourniquets, and last ( definitely not used ones ) put one inside a sock to get water from a stream.....they reallllllyyy stretch!
Item 2: Tampons, small, light, low volume BUT brilliant for stopping/staunching blood from open wounds...

Item 2 is a pretty classic misconception, some good advice on this page:
Hemorrhage Control – What Aunt Flow Didn’t Know | Private Bloggins

a couple of things not mentioned(or i didnt see them) i have added ......little bottle of the spray hand sanitizer, awesome when you get nailed by ongaonga takes away the sting temporary relief anyway just keep applying it as needed . quickeze, found out very handy when you run out of food cos the guy your overdue with brought nothing and you had to share your rations, takes away the hunger pains inner tube which most use to start a fire can also be used as a tournequet....eye drops for when you get nailed by bush lawyer.... eyes are very important in the bush.

Originally Posted by kukuwai

Not a bad option in areas with high numbers of wasps or if travelling with people who have allergies.

Cheaper than an epi pen and 3x the dose.
Should be available at most chemists

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Whats that kit cost if you don't mind me asking ? . Im told by the Tutor at my First aid course that Epi pens are around $200 and the US patent holder is putting the cost up 300 % (his exact words ) . I hope he's wrong

@Munsey my last round of Epipen were $130, they are only 300mg (standard dose is 500 so depending on the person you need two) (there are ways to get onto them than one dose.... YouTube) think in the us they are 300+.

Guess I should get some more if they are going up (only last for a year)

@Munsey my last round of Epipen were $130, they are only 300mg (standard dose is 500 so depending on the person you need two) (there are ways to get more out them than one dose.... YouTube) think in the us they are 300+.

Guess I should get some more if they are going up (only last for a year)

Originally Posted by scotty

a couple of things not mentioned(or i didnt see them) i have added ......little bottle of the spray hand sanitizer, awesome when you get nailed by ongaonga takes away the sting temporary relief anyway just keep applying it as needed . quickeze, found out very handy when you run out of food cos the guy your overdue with brought nothing and you had to share your rations, takes away the hunger pains inner tube which most use to start a fire can also be used as a tournequet....eye drops for when you get nailed by bush lawyer.... eyes are very important in the bush.

I like those eye wash saline vials where you rip the top off and the squirty top allows you to wash all the shit out (use em from time to time at work). If you can't see you're less able to sort yourself out.

Originally Posted by Munsey

Whats that kit cost if you don't mind me asking ? . Im told by the Tutor at my First aid course that Epi pens are around $200 and the US patent holder is putting the cost up 300 % (his exact words ) . I hope he's wrong

My boss brought them so not exactly sure but they were definitely under $50. We just did an anaphylaxis course at work and the tutor said the ampoule alone is about $30.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

Originally Posted by kukuwai

My boss brought them so not exactly sure but they were definitely under $50. We just did an anaphylaxis course at work and the tutor said the ampoule alone is about $30.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

One shot with an epipen is rarely enough, when it wears off you're back in the same position again so it's well worth taking in some ampules and syringe as well to last until help can arrive or you manage to get out.

You can get ampules of adrenaline on prescription for $5 according to my pharmacist wife.