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Recently bought this interesting vintage shotgun. W & C Scott and Son, Hammerless Hammer Shotgun. Regent St London proofed between 1875 and 1887.
External Hammers that trigger internal firing pins. Sorry about the poor pics.

Remington 1858 caliber .44
Cogswell Travelling pistol in .75"

I shoot with both, the Cogswell takes 12 gauge slugs patched with pillow case linen. Touching it off gets your attention.

Originally Posted by Southcity

Recently bought this interesting vintage shotgun. W & C Scott and Son, Hammerless Hammer Shotgun. Regent St London proofed between 1875 and 1887.
External Hammers that trigger internal firing pins. Sorry about the poor pics.

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I would love to turn up to an NZCTA club with that. It would do their heads in, hammerless but with external cocks that look like hammers. What a fun conversation could be had

Norway is one of the few places where antique firearms can be had dirt cheap.Its a combination of us being limited to 8 long arms for hunting and a general lack of interest in anything old.However if a firearm was made before 1891 you dont need a licence for it and you can have as many as you want.Colt peacemakers,Winchester lever actions,fancy European sporting guns etc can be shot with but you cant hunt anything with a handgun and only animals up to Roe Deer with most back powder guns.

This is because the energy required for hunting big game is for some reason calculated at 300 meters distance.Not that the government encourages anyone to shoot that far,the annual shooting test every hunter is required to pass is held at 100 meters but its to keep the back powder stuff out of the woods.I have passed the shooting test with all sorts of odd firearms just to prove a point (I once passed it with a Snider as well as a 9X19mm Pistol) you have to get 5 hits on a 30 cm target at 100 meters standing,prone,sitting or kneeling.

Krag Jørgensen made by Steyr in 1899.

Absolute dead end of a bolt action rifle design but a triumph of complex machining.

The Krags are just so slick in the action. The skilled tradesmen who built them are sadly gone and very few have mastered those skills since.

They used to start with a block of steel and mill off all the bits that didn't look like a rifle is a description I've heard for that kind of workmanship.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

They used to start with a block of steel and mill off all the bits that didn't look like a rifle is a description I've heard for that kind of workmanship.

A bit like building houses
Build two and have enough offcuts to build a third

I bet it ended up using less than 25% by weight from what they started with

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

They used to start with a block of steel and mill off all the bits that didn't look like a rifle is a description I've heard for that kind of workmanship.

There are gun parts inside every piece of steel. The secret is in knowing which parts to throw away!

French gunmakers Dorleac and Dorleac made a beautiful sporting rifle on a Krag action , can’t find the picture at the minute

@Lucky yup seen some of their work online. pretty bloody nice

Originally Posted by Lucky

French gunmakers Dorleac and Dorleac made a beautiful sporting rifle on a Krag action , can’t find the picture at the minute

This Norwegian gunsmith has built a few nice Krag based rifles. It was the military issue rifle there back in the day so there are plenty of actions/parts available. There are enough photos to tell the story if you don't understand Norwegian
https://www.rafdal-vapen.no/customkrag-9075s.html

My NZ Carbine, pretty stoked to pick this up recently. Quite an amazing bit of kiwi history in my safe.

Originally Posted by akaroa1

A bit like building houses
Build two and have enough offcuts to build a third

I bet it ended up using less than 25% by weight from what they started with

A Krag action started out as a 3.5 kg lump of steel and ended up as a 500 gram action. Hard to believe but its true.

what is that tiny gun?