Thread: 22 magnum on reds

Originally Posted by Timmay

Does anyone recommend me using spitwads on deer?

What Cal? You would maybe wanna have the flu as well, so the projectile can retain some weight.

Originally Posted by bully

good skills in the video, you must more or less take deer when ever you want.

Not quite !

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Yeah your right spud, had a bad day and stand corrected, can't wait to get back to n.z. And take the 243 out again

Originally Posted by R93

What Cal? You would maybe wanna have the flu as well, so the projectile can retain some weight.

You don't need to tell Timmay, he was taught by the best. Here is a pic of us and the bros from our last trip, before we run out of spitwad toilet paper and went home. In this pic hes trying to stick one to the toilet roof, like in primary school

Funny that. Just as I pictured you blokes

Originally Posted by Pointer

You don't need to tell Timmay, he was taught by the best. Here is a pic of us and the bros from our last trip, before we run out of spitwad toilet paper and went home. In this pic hes trying to stick one to the toilet roof, like in primary school

fascinating!.......why would you put a giant dick and two large plums around your neck if you want to girls to see your lollies?.seams odd.

Originally Posted by Neckshot

fascinating!.......why would you put a giant dick and two large plums around your neck if you want to girls to see your lollies?.seams odd.

Those aren't mere plums mate. They are the dried scrotums of men harder than you. Don't fuck with Timmay!

In that photo you can see Timmays Actual pouch. What you can't see in that pouch is two balls of solid steel

Why is that .22's are fine on goats but are unethical for deer?
In my experience anything that will kill a goat will kill a deer just fine; I think goats are harder to kill. And a big billygoat is much more tenacious of life than the average deer. Deer are easy to kill.
I wouldnt have a problem shooting a deer with a .22 magnum if I had the chance at less then 100metres, or a .22LR at less than 75 metres. Although I would have to think whether I would use solids or hollowpoints.
Certainly I think I would put money on the guy with the .22LR making a more reliable kill than a chap with a bow at the same range...

A 22lr firing subs has approximately 95ft/lbs at 30 yards
My bow has about 60ft/lbs at 30

The bow cuts a 1 1/4 inch hole in the deer
The 22lr cuts a .22 inch hole...

Make of that what you want

Originally Posted by PerazziSC3

A 22lr firing subs has approximately 95ft/lbs at 30 yards
My bow has about 60ft/lbs at 30

The bow cuts a 1 1/4 inch hole in the deer
The 22lr cuts a .22 inch hole...

Make of that what you want

And the arrow will cut that hole right threw .

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This type of question and people's varying opinions come up regularly on forums and it's always interesting seeing different people's responses.

You can tell a lot about a persons actual experience and ethics by what they write!

My point is you're not going to hit a deer reliably in the chest at 75 metres with a bow. Whereas with a .22 and a scope and a rested position I can put a bullet in the head or top of the neck. And it doesnt matter how big a hole the arrow makes - a .22LR normal velocity will go right through a deer skull at that range; it will shatter the bone stir the brain and exit. Money on the .22 guy.
At 40 metres and less, then sure your bow is a devastating killer. But the .22 rifle will still do the job if you've got the shot, and if you've got the bowshot then you've got the .22 shot.
These are my thoughts on this matter.

Ethics in NZ are not the same as in the United States, Africa or England and other places where they actually have some. We poison our animals with 1080. Our government enables chopper shooters with .223's and young chaps buy books about doing it.

Originally Posted by Carlsen Highway

And it doesnt matter how big a hole the arrow makes - a .22LR normal velocity will go right through a deer skull at that range; it will shatter the bone stir the brain and exit.

Out of interest, how much margin for error is there in hitting a deer brain with a 22LR? I ask as once I had a young goat just stand there bleating at me after 3x 22mag rounds to the head at maybe 70m. It was incapacitated enough for me to walk up and cut its throat without it running away, but not a nice feeling making an animal suffer.

Checked my zero afterwards and it was shooting an inch to the right as I'd grabbed the wrong box of ammo, it didn't take much for me to have hit a bit far forward on the skull and missed the critical part of the brain.

ok by the sounds of your first comment i thought you meant taking a lung/heart shot on a deer with the 22.

A brain shot with any calibre is going to kill a deer carlsen, you dont need to explain how it does it haha