Thread: .22 Power.

Originally Posted by outlander

Man, that Velocitor stuff hauls ass! Must be C4 in those cases to achieve 1435fps with a 40 gr.

It doesn't, it goes about the same as CCI Mini mag

Originally Posted by Beavis

It doesn't, it goes about the same as CCI Mini mag

Ah, okay.

Originally Posted by outlander

Man, that Velocitor stuff hauls ass! Must be C4 in those cases to achieve 1435fps with a 40 gr.

Got a bloody piercing crack to it that’s for sure.

Originally Posted by The bomb

Got a bloody piercing crack to it that’s for sure.

I'll have to chrono some soonest, but not in the 1902 Winchester!

Round nosed solids for me, after being suprised by their consistent accuracy and velocity I managed to get several thousand rounds of winchester m 22 for a very good price.
The stuff was evidently designed for use with .22 ar conversions and the demand suddenly dissapeared!
Anyhow the claimed velocity of 1250 is wrong it's 1215 with a SD of 8 which is pretty bloody good.
I don't think hollow points really are that much better at small game shooting velocities and I'm sure some of the hollow pointing I've seen must throw the balance off.

how do the copper ones go for expansion and accuracy ?

I would have to agree regarding the accuracy over speed comments. I have never recovered a 22 bullet from a rabbit. They almost always go right through, even subsonics like Magtech that were almost a bucket (big hollow point). As such, when shooting rabbits, increasd speed will fall (flatten the curve.....) but the additional energy simply makes a deeper hole behind the animal you just shot....

I have always had better success with subsonics than I have with hyper velocity, but mostly due to accuracy and my practise / familiarity with the trajectory.

From my range testing of super quick 1700+fps Fiocchi I found it had half the drop at distance and half the accuracy. Wasn't good enough - accuracy is king for a 22.

We effectively shoot bunnies at 100m with ammos that group well in a specific 22. Sometimes high velocity ammos (1200-1300fps) can shoot just as accurately at 100 as subs (down to half inch groups at 100m) - depends totally on the individual rifle.

Those (winchester I think) 40grn power points must be up there.

Originally Posted by Allizdog

Those (winchester I think) 40grn power points must be up there.

Used a hell of a lot of both Winchester Sub and Power Point both 40 gr. In the Marlin I once had muzzle velocity of Win Power Point was 1240 Av and Subsonic in my Ruger was at 1050 fps. Both these rounds were capable of good accuracy out to 75 -80 yards with shots at 100 still being doable. An accurate rifle is important but plenty of practice helps a lot.

Accuracy is great but accuracy and good expansion is better.
I always had good accuracy and terminal performance from Australian 40grpowerpoint.....American was different and may as well have been solid cos it didnt expand.
The Winchester 42gr sub (Australian ) shot very well in my rifle and hit with a wallop...didn't get runners with a engine room shot.
Couldn't find them for a while went cci sub, shot very well maybe slightly better than the win but it doesnt put down rabbits and hares the same, I dont think it expands at all.
Just got a brick of American 42gr whinny supersonic.....I hope they have learnt off the Australians......

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Accuracy is great but accuracy and good expansion is better.
I always had good accuracy and terminal performance from Australian 40grpowerpoint.....American was different and may as well have been solid cos it didnt expand.
The Winchester 42gr sub (Australian ) shot very well in my rifle and hit with a wallop...didn't get runners with a engine room shot.
Couldn't find them for a while went cci sub, shot very well maybe slightly better than the win but it doesnt put down rabbits and hares the same, I dont think it expands at all.
Just got a brick of American 42gr whinny supersonic.....I hope they have learnt off the Australians......

Last Australian 22 I saw was 17 years ago. It was cheap and deadly accurate.

Originally Posted by outlander

Last Australian 22 I saw was 17 years ago. It was cheap and deadly accurate.

The 42gr super and sub was designed and made in Aus up until not long ago as far as I am aware.
I think they must have stopped making the 40gr powerpoint when they started the 42gr as supply of that dryed up pretty early on.

Yep - a slow certain hit is better than a fast certain miss.

I found the same when I ran out of Winchester subs and used CCI,more runners as they had a tiny hollow point compared to the Winchester which hit with a resounding thump and stopped game dead in their tracks.