Thread: .223 off the shelf ammo

too heavy for twist it MIGHT yaw on exit...collecting baffles on the way out.

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

too heavy for twist it MIGHT yaw on exit...collecting baffles on the way out.

Correct, and konevs point about light ones with thin jackets in very fast twists is a good one. At 3200 fps a bullet fired from a 1:7 twist is doing 329,1000 rpm and that will rip a 40 grain varmit grenades nightie clean off
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Thanks for all the feedback quite a swing to Barnaul and looking at the prices I can see why. I will give then a try.

Think the twist will be suited to sub 55grn.

Interesting looking at prices GC is off the chart, Gunworks was quite good and the Barnaul would question the value of reloading at their prices.

Originally Posted by foxhound

Check out belmont site, i used to all ways use there 223 products with success untill i got into re loading my own

Yeah Belmont is bloody cheap and a number of projectile options. Will also give these a go

Before you commit to buying a heap of Barnaul, Google

"Lucky Gunner Epic ammo torture test"

Food for thought.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

Before you commit to buying a heap of Barnaul, Google

"Lucky Gunner Epic ammo torture test"

Food for thought.

That’s a read and a half. Interesting the wear factor after 6000 rounds compared to the federal brass case setup. I wasn’t even aware of the steel cases. Thanks @Max Headroom

If you don't mind treating your barrel as a disposable unit, using steel cased ammo over the long haul might make sense.

Originally Posted by Max Headroom

If you don't mind treating your barrel as a disposable unit, using steel cased ammo over the long haul might make sense.

Not this baby, it’s an absolute minter a-bolt stainless stalker (older model) fired less than a box of ammo. Rare as hens teeth.

For the amount of shots we will fire through it probably should stick to brass cases

Up to you. That article from memory also said that you are saving so much money that the cost of new barrel still works out cheaper.

My 223 steel case was mint. Impressive muzzle flash. Good terminal results. And best of all no mucking around finding brass. Just bomb up the goats and move on to the next mob.

Originally Posted by rewa

Who stocks that ?

(Buffalo River) Hunting and fishing used to. In 5 round blister packs so very handy. Haven't seen it lately but they do have some ADI loaded 55gr SP which are comparable but not "ballistic tip" or whatever.

Originally Posted by SiB

@Marty Henry

“If you run a supressor its best to take it off after say 65 grains to avoid a nasty surprise”

This is news to me - am now running 69gr Sierra in my 1:8 Tikka - can you explain the issue?

Thanks!

68-69gr will stabilise in most barrels, they seem to be the "sweet spot" for .223. 1:8 is fast, AR fast, you could easily go 74gr or higher.
I would do ALL testing without a supressor. As mentioned above, yaw and instability leading to baffle strike.

90gr in a 1:12.5

neat photo...interesting one projectile looks to have made a bent projectile shaped hole (4;00)

Pretty devastating terminal performance with those IF you can hit the target.

Check out ammodirect Wanganui company. I have been buying from them. Wide selection of 223 starting art 35gr going right up. And very good prices. I brought bulk of their 55gr sp freedom ammo. Brass cases. Groups under an inch. Not sure exactly what the projectiles are but kill very well. Have a good selection of well known projectiles

i have a few different factory loads and handloads, you are welcome to come grab a few and see what works for you

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

neat photo...interesting one projectile looks to have made a bent projectile shaped hole (4;00)

I think it was probably 2 shots.

Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Pretty devastating terminal performance with those IF you can hit the target.

Yeah you certainly wouldn't want to get hit with one. That was a ladder test at 100y, up to about 2700fps. All of them were inside 16"...