Thread: 25-06 why hasn't it achieved fame and success in New Zealand?

Same. No meaningful increase for the lighter bullets over the 25-06. Starting from 60gr I'd say.

1000 rounds at 3 bullets to sight in and one per deer is a lifetimes hunting......
you DONT HAVE TO load things right up to envelope bending scorching speeds.....Im pretty sure we will be able to duplicate a EBRG type loading and have room to spare....should last much longer and be eaiser on all concerned....... never quite been able to work out why folk try to cram as much powder as possible into tiny case to try to get the velocity you can get with ease from a bigger case with less pressure......if you want weatherby magnum preformance...buy a weatherby magnum.

A 25.06 will put a 100 grain partition through a camel shoulders, Anyone who thinks a 25.06 will bounce off a Red Stag needs to get behind one and see it work in the field not rely on foot pound/energy , ballistics or bullet weight tables.

Originally Posted by nor-west

A 25.06 will put a 100 grain partition through a camel shoulders, Anyone who thinks a 25.06 will bounce off a Red Stag needs to get behind one and see it work in the field not rely on foot pound/energy , ballistics or bullet weight tables.

It was a 100 grain Partition that Roy Weatherby used to kill his Cape Buff, that, is about as big a test as there is for any bullet/cartridge combination.

most 25/06 users dont reload.....cough splutter...say WHAT????? I suppose most .22 / 243 users dont either????
6.5x55mm yeah the vast majority of users buy off the shelf too.......cause its just soo good using a rifle at way below its best aye........
folk reload for many reasons.....the main ones are
#1 to try and save a few $$$
#2 to make taylor made loads that suit rifle better than off the shelf stuff
#3 to make loads different from off the shelf stuff...hotter,slower,heavier or lighter
#4 same reason as my dog licks its bits.....because they can

For there to be any kind of factual ballistic argument for or against then that callibre needs at least a couple of good game killing projectiles with a BC of .5 or better.

A round set up to shoot to longer ranges that does not have these is absurd.

Burning up your barrel with a round thats badly wind affected makes no sense.

The "flat shooting" thing being a myth because punch it into a ballistics calculator and you will see the projectiles inneficiency is more important than the high muzzle velocity.

If there was a projectile around the 115-120gr mark with a BC of .6 then 25-06 would be shit hot. There is no reason why one could not be made.

What's the point of a hugely over bore short range chambering?

Originally Posted by Tussock

For there to be any kind of factual ballistic argument for or against then that callibre needs at least a couple of good game killing projectiles with a BC of .5 or better.

A round set up to shoot to longer ranges that does not have these is absurd.

Burning up your barrel with a round thats badly wind affected makes no sense.

The "flat shooting" thing being a myth because punch it into a ballistics calculator and you will see the projectiles inneficiency is more important than the high muzzle velocity.

If there was a projectile around the 115-120gr mark with a BC of .6 then 25-06 would be shit hot. There is no reason why one could not be made.

What's the point of a hugely over bore short range chambering?

https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/2...6-5-creedmoor/

A good read.

Originally Posted by nor-west

https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/blog/2...6-5-creedmoor/

A good read.

Well I've just read and watched it, I can see it IS much shiny-er and better than my other calibres, so now I want one.. no wonder my my wife gets that look in her eye... now .. what can I sell

Originally Posted by Tussock

For there to be any kind of factual ballistic argument for or against then that callibre needs at least a couple of good game killing projectiles with a BC of .5 or better.

A round set up to shoot to longer ranges that does not have these is absurd.

Burning up your barrel with a round thats badly wind affected makes no sense.

The "flat shooting" thing being a myth because punch it into a ballistics calculator and you will see the projectiles inneficiency is more important than the high muzzle velocity.

If there was a projectile around the 115-120gr mark with a BC of .6 then 25-06 would be shit hot. There is no reason why one could not be made.

What's the point of a hugely over bore short range chambering?

tell all that to the old time buffalo shooters who used .45 or .50 calibre black powder rounds at medium ranges to devastating effect.

Hey @nor-west he ( @Tussock ) is not looking for informed response, rather is dangling bait..... don't feed that particular Troll. The other protagonist in this end of the thread is just misguided and misinformed.

Enjoying this thread that much has prompted me to join NZ Hunting and shooting forum! Why has 2506 not achieved fame in NZ?? Because it is inefficient and when / if you get into researching ballistics / Calibers as many do their are simply more efficient calibers out there between 6mm - 7mm options which most divert to ahead of the 2506. Get past that and you are prepared to go inefficient, burn powder, make a Big Bang, have a looonnng action and barrel then the 2506 is one heck of a cartridge in nz and I think one of the coolest Calibers out there... I liken it to driving a v8 vs more economical vehicle alternatives😊. I have been shooting a 2506 since 1999 and took my last deer last weekend at 543 yards, admittedly that was probably a little irresponsible range wise and the deer required a finishing shot. The deer before that was at 508 yds and the shot went through the lower shoulder and heart. In both instances the projectile exited. Normal shooting ranges for me are between 50-300 yds and nearly all deer (sika) I have shot with the 2506 have fallen within 5 yds of where they have been shot. I currently shoot a Kimber 84l with a custom load from rivers to ranges in HB (Jem & Scotty) using 117gn Sierra game kings doing 3130fps out of a 24 inch barrel. Pictures below are my last 2 sika out of my 2506. Having said all that my son has just got his first rifle in 6.5cr and I’m really looking forward to seeing how that goes.

Originally Posted by Kaweka2506

Enjoying this thread that much has prompted me to join NZ Hunting and shooting forum! Why has 2506 not achieved fame in NZ?? Because it is inefficient and when / if you get into researching ballistics / Calibers as many do their are simply more efficient calibers out there between 6mm - 7mm options which most divert to ahead of the 2506. Get past that and you are prepared to go inefficient, burn powder, make a Big Bang, have a looonnng action and barrel then the 2506 is one heck of a cartridge in nz and I think one of the coolest Calibers out there... I liken it to driving a v8 vs more economical vehicle alternatives��. I have been shooting a 2506 since 1999 and took my last deer last weekend at 543 yards, admittedly that was probably a little irresponsible range wise and the deer required a finishing shot. The deer before that was at 508 yds and the shot went through the lower shoulder and heart. In both instances the projectile exited. Normal shooting ranges for me are between 50-300 yds and nearly all deer (sika) I have shot with the 2506 have fallen within 5 yds of where they have been shot. I currently shoot a Kimber 84l with a custom load from rivers to ranges in HB (Jem & Scotty) using 117gn Sierra game kings doing 3130fps out of a 24 inch barrel. Pictures below are my last 2 sika out of my 2506. Having said all that my son has just got his first rifle in 6.5cr and I’m really looking forward to seeing how that goes.Attachment 132842Attachment 132843

Another thing to consider IMO is that a lot of projectiles available in the past as factory loads for 25 06 weren't really very good and gave poor results. Nowadays on the whole projectiles are better and can perform over a greater velocity range.

From what I've seen from my 416 rem.mag with 350gr barnes at slower speed around the 2000fps mark it seems to work well. If it was something that mushroomed at that speed i can see how they liked it.
Mind you speed them up to 2500fps and you have something with 5000ftlb of energy and if it hits something solid it will hurt bigtime

My first rifle was a P14 303...all I could afford. As soon as the student loan $ came through I bought one of the first Browning A-Bolts (factory fluted bolt) and after much research in 25-06. It shot thar, wallabies, and a big close to 40x40 stag in the upper Waimak. 117gn hornady were good but I switched to 100gn hornady with 50gn 2209 - great load. The lack of a good bc and limited downrange energy are downsides.

Originally Posted by Tikka7mm08

My first rifle was a P14 303...all I could afford. As soon as the student loan $ came through I bought one of the first Browning A-Bolts (factory fluted bolt) and after much research in 25-06. It shot thar, wallabies, and a big close to 40x40 stag in the upper Waimak. 117gn hornady were good but I switched to 100gn hornady with 50gn 2209 - great load. The lack of a good bc and limited downrange energy are downsides.


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If it has those major down sides.

They why did you get it. Doesn't seem like it's good for anything in particular