Thread: 25-06 why hasn't it achieved fame and success in New Zealand?

Originally Posted by Tussock

You guys are too harsh. I think Outdoors with Geof is one of the best comedies on NZ television.

Are you pissed????

I have not long got rid of my 25-06. For no other reason than I want to try something else. I had had it for 12 odd years and it was great with no problems. One funny thing though was I always thought that its performance was not as good as my previous .257 Roberts Ackley Improved. Even though technically thier performances should have been similar. I had more "Drop on the spot" shots with the .257 than the .25-06 and I don't think my shooting got any worse.

Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter

Yea He's got a remmy 700 CDL 300wm....

he's better than Graeme sinclair by a big bit though...

hehehe one way to cure availabilty is for people to buy it aye

I can't fault the 25-06 but then again neither the 7mm rem mag or 223....

that reminds me I just shot a .4 group with my AR which is better than dads tikka lol....sorry just had to make a mention of it

No he's not.

Graeme was doing the show when I was a child, and he's still doing it.

IN A WHEELCHAIR.

Originally Posted by Tussock

Yep. And Graeme Sinclair is the real deal. I read an extremely old Rod and Rifle (I was at intermediate school and it was in the library, so old) about him hunting Wapiti in Fiordland. Hard, successful trips. Outdoor Geof would have died trying to put his pack on.

Geoff would be right into Fiordland if it was a street name at Gulf Harbour...

Originally Posted by Tussock

Yep. And Graeme Sinclair is the real deal. I read an extremely old Rod and Rifle (I was at intermediate school and it was in the library, so old) about him hunting Wapiti in Fiordland. Hard, successful trips.

That shows when it comes to his attitude to his illness. MS is a cruel disease that continually reaches in and rips away your life little bits at a time .Hes still out there catchin fish with his chin up.

Sinclair has always struck a chord with me with his approach life and our sport be it fishing or hunting. Top bloke. Geoffrey's hideous laugh leaves me cold, not that my laugh is a heartwarmer but I have no choice there with a tv remote.

I reload for 243, 7mm08, 2506, 308 among others. There isn't much between them I would say - I load 100gn 2506 with 50gn 2209, and use the same powder and charge (a clover-leaf producing one) in my 7mm08 with 140gn Noslers (BTs or ABs). Nothing wrong with 2506 but no better than the others names and agree about lack of bullet choice.

Originally Posted by baldbob

It has nothing to do with BC.... Very few shooters need worry about BC... Even a longranger need not worry about BC until 500m or more.... Sure if you shoot shit far out, and stuff all of use actually do....

Lack of popularity of the .25cal in my mind has stuff all to do with its longrange characteristics or available pills... it has more to do with it being overshadowed by other cals.... .270 has shit BCs but is if not "the" most popular cal in NZ.... You have to remember the current LR fad has only been round a few years hunting and calibres has been around much longer....

So really to ascertain why it isnt a really popular calibre we have to look at all and every hunting style as a whole....
Not a BC inducing fad involving a small percentage of us, .270 proves that....

Long range shooters, like yourself, need not worry about BC.

Long range hunters, most definitely do.

I am neither of the above, but like cool shit

Chris

I think it is because 25-06 sounds smaller than a 7mm 08 to Jaffa's.

I didnt say it doesnt matter crankamator... People over rely on things at times is all im suggesting

If the internet didn't exist, and you just picked up a 25-06 with a 4x 'scope on it, sighted it in for 250 yards, stuffed some 120 grain factory rounds into it and went hunting...you would be equipped to kill any game animal in NZ out to 300 yards. And be completely satisfied. Maybe 0n the odd occasion you would use a couple of shots, but heh, shit happens.

So maybe its the internet that makes the difference? Not anything else.

My Toyota Vista is a shitbox, but it's economical enough and gets me where I want to go reliably.

My plain old Howa with factory ammo does the same.

I don't really have any desire to own a Jaguar, and I don't really care what centrefire calibre I use as long as it kills things to 200m with factory ammo. Different strokes for different folks.

I would happily own a 25-06, if a cheap and reliable one went up for sale. Gimp is probably going to remove me as a mod for saying that though

Sighting a deer rifle in at 250 yards is the worst advise anyone can give.

Agreed on all other points though.

Chris

sighting in a deer rifle at 200m is the way to go....

hmmm intresting to hear your thoughts......

if you boil it down yea theres not much difference,like 2" if that and tbh with any of the mentioned cal's.... you can't go wrong, see I'm someone who doesn't like recoil but I can manage it enough to shoot .8 groups at 200m with my 25-06... having a big long case from the 25-06 and the recoil of a 243 does feel empowering...

as soon as I've paid for all my duckshooting stuff I'm grabbing a 6.5x55 CZ 550 FS mannlicher and a redfeild 3-9x40 or a 3-9x50 if possible.... that should do the trick as a no frills under 250m bush type rifle

I got a 243 - it's short action and I'm a wee fella. I can't see the 25-06 being an interest to me because I don't handload. If I was considering a bigger caliber in short action then it would be 308. If I wanted a long action I'd go 270. I can get good factory loads for both.
I think it falls into a hole of bespoke calibers now..

Originally Posted by crnkin

Sighting a deer rifle in at 250 yards is the worst advise anyone can give.

Agreed on all other points though.

Chris

I was just roughing out the 3" high at 100 factor thing off the top of my head for the sake of the argument. It works, and has stood the test.

Originally Posted by crnkin

Sighting a deer rifle in at 250 yards is the worst advise anyone can give.

Agreed on all other points though.

Chris

How so Crankin?