Thread: 257 roberts

Originally Posted by jakewire

I hope this thread carries on, I'd like to hear some real world experience of a 24" 25-06 running an accurate 100gr Nosler Bt at 31-3200fps.
Take a bit of beating over 3-400 yrds.

3200fps is not hard to achieve with a 24" barrel however I mainly used 120Grn Hornady Hp and they worked great at 3100fps, I did use the 100 Nosler BT in my 25/08 and the 110 AB and they ended up being my main loads with N160 powder.

Originally Posted by jakewire

I hope this thread carries on, I'd like to hear some real world experience of a 24" 25-06 running an accurate 100gr Nosler Bt at 31-3200fps.
Take a bit of beating over 3-400 yrds.

I tried a couple box's of 20, (100BT)in my finlight, they didn't group all that good, 2.5" groups, but much better than the 100gr barns, they looked like a shotgun pattern, I shot one sika and about 20 goats to 200m, worked ok, but I have settled on the 110gr accubond,
Winchester Factory loads are 3100fps, and I was 50fps faster over a mates crony, around 1" five shot groups, Only shot game to about 250m, and one shot and done, the only long (350) range chance I fluffed, by being to smart, and got spotted getting into position, should have shot from ten meters back, but I am sure, I aren't the only one, To have tried to get up to a better rest and been outwitted.
I think that the 110-115gr window, is a good place to be with the 2506, 3250-3150 fps and a .450 bc bullet, 100gr, might as well just use a .243 or 6mm rem,
I got my hands on 200 matrix 125gr bonded bullets to try, loaded up 20 and started development, should get back on that again.

lol me too ... sorry if im a little hard to understand im just finishing my shit sandwich

I doubt I will get another .25/06, again, I have had two of them so far. Although my caliber selections depend more on the rifle really. I am looking for a .243 though in a desultary fashion. Mainly for sentimental reasons; the .257 Roberts has that work covered.

( I just bought one after posting on this thread the other day, but the bastard thing wouldnt extract, so I took it back. )

What one did you buy?
Don't take anything to that green place. The gunsmith is whoever is handy in the shop....

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

What one did you buy?
Don't take anything to that green place. The gunsmith is whoever is handy in the shop....

No, I just got my money back. I am too old to buy project rifles.

I brought a new weatherby stainless vanguard in 257weatherby and got it shooting good with 110grn accubonds at around 3400 it was the shnizzle on goats but it weighed a ton traded for a tikka t3 6.5x55 which was way more sensible and quieter.

My two cents for fun... I have no experience with 257 nor 22-250. But my experience with .25-06, while I used to think it was an awesome calibre, I've seen and heard too many deer get away, even with very well placed shots (i.e. Straight through both third ribs).
If reading between the lines of ego and preference from some of you, I pick out the crucial differences between the cartridges, it seems to me the 257 typically travels a bit slower and therefore packs a bit more punch, more successfully putting deer on the deck.
I've had similar experiences with my old .308 where I'm now fairly convinced that projectiles travelling in excess of 3000fps are going too fast to generate the internal trauma required to put a large animal down so it stays down. These days I prefer my 6.5x55 because I'm yet to see any animal get up from a 140g SPBT, and I've recovered the last three mushroomed projectiles from my last three deer, with two of those just under the skin on the far side of bullet entry. My projectiles are doing 2560fps at the muzzle.
Each to their own of course, but my unfounded love of super velocity calibres like .25-06 and .22-250 died quite some time ago.
If I was long range target/varmint shooting however...hmmm


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Originally Posted by Hunt4life

My two cents for fun... I have no experience with 257 nor 22-250. But my experience with .25-06, while I used to think it was an awesome calibre, I've seen and heard too many deer get away, even with very well placed shots (i.e. Straight through both third ribs).
If reading between the lines of ego and preference from some of you, I pick out the crucial differences between the cartridges, it seems to me the 257 typically travels a bit slower and therefore packs a bit more punch, more successfully putting deer on the deck.
I've had similar experiences with my old .308 where I'm now fairly convinced that projectiles travelling in excess of 3000fps are going too fast to generate the internal trauma required to put a large animal down so it stays down. These days I prefer my 6.5x55 because I'm yet to see any animal get up from a 140g SPBT, and I've recovered the last three mushroomed projectiles from my last three deer, with two of those just under the skin on the far side of bullet entry. My projectiles are doing 2560fps at the muzzle.
Each to their own of course, but my unfounded love of super velocity calibres like .25-06 and .22-250 died quite some time ago.
If I was long range target/varmint shooting however...hmmm


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Sounds like bad choice of projectile ive used .25 cal for years with projectiles doing over 3000fps and never had a deer run off.

Originally Posted by Hunt4life

My two cents for fun... I have no experience with 257 nor 22-250. But my experience with .25-06, while I used to think it was an awesome calibre, I've seen and heard too many deer get away, even with very well placed shots (i.e. Straight through both third ribs).
If reading between the lines of ego and preference from some of you, I pick out the crucial differences between the cartridges, it seems to me the 257 typically travels a bit slower and therefore packs a bit more punch, more successfully putting deer on the deck.
I've had similar experiences with my old .308 where I'm now fairly convinced that projectiles travelling in excess of 3000fps are going too fast to generate the internal trauma required to put a large animal down so it stays down. These days I prefer my 6.5x55 because I'm yet to see any animal get up from a 140g SPBT, and I've recovered the last three mushroomed projectiles from my last three deer, with two of those just under the skin on the far side of bullet entry. My projectiles are doing 2560fps at the muzzle.
Each to their own of course, but my unfounded love of super velocity calibres like .25-06 and .22-250 died quite some time ago.
If I was long range target/varmint shooting however...hmmm


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Think you will find, that any given bullet, will carry more energy if travling faster, suspect your poor results are more to do with poor bullet choice or placement, A tsx or bonded bullet in a small deer may not expand fully, before exiting, or may need to strike bone and heavy tissue, ie threw the shoulder rather than behind the shoulder, like wise a varmint or too light a bullet, may not reach vitals,
I tend to shoot threw the front shoulders, rather than behind, Right now I am in Canada, and most everyone up here shoots behind to save more meat, due to restrictions on tags, and amount of game that can be taken. But you don't get any runners, with both shoulders broken.
If you have had a bad run fair enough, move on, personally, I think the 6.5- 7mm bore is more versatile for NZ conditions. love my M70 7x57, and .260
Doesn't much matter what cal you use, if you put the wrong bullet in the right place, or the right bullet in the wrong place, results are generally poor.

Originally Posted by Hunt4life

Why would anyone use 120g in 6.5? For varmint/rabbit control???


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Because they kill everything from big red stags and wap crosses down. And they do it well.

^ only factory ammo used


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My 2506 kills everything I point it at,120gn Speer Grand Slam at 3200fps as the top round in the mag, in case it is close or tough or a bad angle, and 117gn Sierra Gamekings up next for past 350, never needed a second shot yet, including on Tahr out to nearly 500yd. Dunno about this shooting at the ribs carry on, I want animals to die fast and on the spot. I can punch the Grandslam clean through 10mm mild steel plate at 300yds, guess what happens to an animal shot through the shoulders........... irrespective of calibre (within reason) placement is everything, assuming sensible choice of projectile for the game hunted.

The 250. Now that's a whole nother story...


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I would rather a mate come out of the closet and tell me he is gay than see him come home with a new 25-06. One of those he can't help, he's just bent that way. The other one is just a fuckin poor life decision