Thread: 270 over penetration at close range?

Originally Posted by Breyt

I have shot plenty of impala ,blesbok, kudu ,warthog you name it. Every time on close range the bullet disintegrated rather than went straight through. Monolithic solids is a different story.

same old story ..projectile choice......
Ive shot all sorts but only time bullet "disintergrated" was 110 varmit bullet on young fallow. the funny bit when guys say bullet failed is they know it from looking at very dead animal...cant make an omlet without breaking eggs
why guys don't dual load is beyond me
load up with good hefty pill for jumped up spook n shoot and carry long range super duper load
eg 150 partition and a ballistic tip for out further
sorry Brenyt...your post agrees with what Ive said up close they pull apart/expand or do what they are ment to...beyond me that fellas reckon they pencil through?????

Originally Posted by deer243

+1 surely the above is spot on. A 270 is no good at close range is just a pure myth. Just like someone saying a 243 is no good for a bush rifle or using in the roar ..pure myth and utter nonsense.

There is a lot of "internet talk" around, todays "myth builders"

Its still just a lump of copper and lead traveling at about the same speed as everything else does, and the difference in diameter between most common calibers is just a few thou of an inch or the width of a few hairs.

We worry too much.

Not thsa i disagree with you BC because I fully agree about worrying/over complicating things but certain projectiles work better in a velocity node. Ive got nothing on you in terms of hunting experience, but I'm on my fourth .270 so I know the calibre pretty well and have used/tried many different projectiles. Theres only been one choice of the many projectikes I've used on game in my opinion thats been a failure in terms of quick kills and massive brusing/meat damage and thats been the 130/140gr sst. Never tried the Btips in the same weight due to being of similar construction. Best has been 150gr Partitions.

Originally Posted by Grunta

Not thsa i disagree with you BC because I fully agree about worrying/over complicating things but certain projectiles work better in a velocity node. Ive got nothing on you in terms of hunting experience, but I'm on my fourth .270 so I know the calibre pretty well and have used/tried many different projectiles. Theres only been one choice of the many projectikes I've used on game in my opinion thats been a failure in terms of quick kills and massive brusing/meat damage and thats been the 130/140gr sst. Never tried the Btips in the same weight due to being of similar construction. Best has been 150gr Partitions.

It was a tongue in cheek comment, but I do think we over complicate things at time.

All good, I see that reading it at a time when im not so tired,

the great caliber debate is just as bad as this bloody ford vs holden malarkey that has been going on for god knows how many years still amusing when the man bags start getting biffed about at each other though

And ive plentu of handbags too choose from too! Haha. I don't think ive ever bagged a caliber in my life. If it shoots, it kills then it does its job. It does amaze me how many people bag the .270 though due to the lack of projectile weight choices. When you can choose from 110, 130, 140, 150, 165 and finally 170 - if you cant find a suitable projectile in that range then I think there's an issue elsewhere....... thank god the yanks still know what a real caliber is!

Originally Posted by Grunta

And ive plentu of handbags too choose from too! Haha. I don't think ive ever bagged a caliber in my life. If it shoots, it kills then it does its job. It does amaze me how many people bag the .270 though due to the lack of projectile weight choices. When you can choose from 110, 130, 140, 150, 165 and finally 170 - if you cant find a suitable projectile in that range then I think there's an issue elsewhere....... thank god the yanks still know what a real caliber is!

the other complaints is low BC bullets even though that is now starting to improve with the VLD bullets you can get for it lost count of how many times I have heard people say or have read on different forums how the 270 is savage when it comes to recoil, then some say they have seen more animals wounded with a 270 than any other caliber (maybe poor shot placement or using the wrong bullet for the job?)

Just sold mine

Damn, if I had known that gibo I would have bought it and added it to the collection! Haha

As Tahr mentioned above - we over complicate things and projectile BC means nothing within 500yds - and there wouldn't be to many that shoot beyond that or that are capable. Over 500yds the .270 really isn't the long range rig choice and thats a fair choice. It wouldn`t be mine if I was shooting further than that.

Thought I'd way in on this thread being a .270 owner. Blooded my latest rifle this evening under the full moon, a nice porker. Shot him from about 30m. I was using 130g Federal powershock ammunition.
The projectile entered the chest and blitz the engine room into soup using all its energy in the animal before stopping just under the skin of the opposite shoulder.


Pretty good result.

Originally Posted by Grunta

Not thsa i disagree with you BC because I fully agree about worrying/over complicating things but certain projectiles work better in a velocity node. Ive got nothing on you in terms of hunting experience, but I'm on my fourth .270 so I know the calibre pretty well and have used/tried many different projectiles. Theres only been one choice of the many projectiles I've used on game in my opinion thats been a failure in terms of quick kills and massive brusing/meat damage and thats been the 130/140gr sst. Never tried the Btips in the same weight due to being of similar construction. Best has been 150gr Partitions.

over generalised i completely disagree - your shot placement must be mud........ the 130's SST's are great 0 - 350, 15 years shooting the same load and have 5 other shooters i have been loading with the same recipe to same effect

ballistic tips were/are designed by Nosler for a purpose.......... using them as a good for everything load ISNT THAT PURPOSE
SST aren't the same projectile
partitions are said to be the ducks nuts.....great but they cost

you wouldn't use just any old load in a .22-250 would you????
poke any .270 load into meat saver area with animal side on or facing slightly away = dead animal
try through shoulder and you need to be a tad more sensible
big angry stag hyped up and bigger/heavier/harder is more sensible still

guys shoot Fallow with VMax projectiles in .30 cal..but they don't shoulder shoot horses for courses that's a specialist head/high neck load designed to decapitate, opposite theory to big stag load.
stag/bush load you want it to hold together and penetrate
other load to blow up causing maximum trauma in minimum area

general purpose load sits somewhere in between


hilux are a great wagon for family but you wont go mud plugging with road slicks or cruising length of country with ya maxxis mudders
both will work if your carefull and selective of what you try to do

Originally Posted by Micky Duck

ballistic tips were/are designed by Nosler for a purpose.......... using them as a good for everything load ISNT THAT PURPOSE
SST aren't the same projectile
partitions are said to be the ducks nuts.....great but they cost

you wouldn't use just any old load in a .22-250 would you????
poke any .270 load into meat saver area with animal side on or facing slightly away = dead animal
try through shoulder and you need to be a tad more sensible
big angry stag hyped up and bigger/heavier/harder is more sensible still

guys shoot Fallow with VMax projectiles in .30 cal..but they don't shoulder shoot horses for courses that's a specialist head/high neck load designed to decapitate, opposite theory to big stag load.
stag/bush load you want it to hold together and penetrate
other load to blow up causing maximum trauma in minimum area

general purpose load sits somewhere in between


hilux are a great wagon for family but you wont go mud plugging with road slicks or cruising length of country with ya maxxis mudders
both will work if your carefull and selective of what you try to do

Point being? - you need to be more direct.