Thread: 300 blackout

Originally Posted by Bill999

I think the subx 190 is great but 50m is too far

I set my limit at about 40m and am far more comfortable at 20m

Know your trajectory out to your max distance and know where you need to put the bullet

Iv shot tons of pigs with mine and Its my favorite rifle by far. think of it like bow hunting but with a rifle, stalk closer and predict where the animal will go next and be ready with an ambush

the subx 300blk kills better than my 44mag subsonic and is far more accurate

the amount of energy you are throwing is pathetic so make sure you dont miss

If you site for 30m with subs you will find the 130s will be point of aim at about 130 which means if you need to make a rushed shot or a shot out to about 150m its a center shoulder shot out that far without thinking

great caliber but be prepaired to walk away from a shot if need be if you are not confident in it doing the business or use a supers

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You're talking about head/neck shots right?

Originally Posted by MB

You're talking about head/neck shots right?

I put my shots in the brain given the choice

"head" isnt enough of a distinction Its either an earhole shot from the side or a cross from ear to opposing eye from the front

Originally Posted by Bill999

I put my shots in the brain given the choice

"head" isnt enough of a distinction Its either an earhole shot from the side or a cross from ear to opposing eye from the front

Yep, just thought I'd clear that up in case anyone thought Sub-X were suitable for classic heart/lung shots as advertised.

Originally Posted by MB

Yep, just thought I'd clear that up in case anyone thought Sub-X were suitable for classic heart/lung shots as advertised.

This heart shot didn’t help me at all as this pig ran past excuse the vertical knife cut

I imagine deer and goats could be different but I don’t like tracking bleeding animals so wouldn’t take a shoulder shot given the opportunity with a subsonic


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300 blackout -just my ten cents worth on that caliber - we tried it or should I say some of our DOC goat cullers tried it - was touted as a great caliber when working with the indicator dogs on goats - the fad and I will call it that lasted an extremely short time ( for most cullers who tried it less than a year) - lack of range and lack of killing power meant it was relegated to rubbish bin very quickly - some very disappointed hunters who had spent money on building up rifles to shoot it ( including one who had converted a sako ) Some tried suppressed 44Mag same result but more about lack of range - deer/goats would pop out on opposite slip 250 yds out - both 300 BLKOUT and 44 mag useless especially considering a suppressed .223 would likely have done the job - 300 blackout to be approached carefully considering its limitations -

Originally Posted by Bill999

This heart shot didn’t help me at all as this pig ran past excuse the vertical knife cut

I imagine deer and goats could be different but I don’t like tracking bleeding animals so wouldn’t take a shoulder shot given the opportunity with a subsonic

Yeah, I've had some goats fall down with chest shots, but some didn't and then I stopped using Sub-X for anything other than head shots. It's a shame it didn't live up to the hype.

Originally Posted by MB

Yeah, I've had some goats fall down with chest shots, but some didn't and then I stopped using Sub-X for anything other than head shots. It's a shame it didn't live up to the hype.

Im such a fan boy of it and think its the tops and moved up from 22lr subs to 165gr ballistic tips at 1000fps to this then on to 44s and 45s and the subx 190gr is still the best iv used

Iv smacked pigs out of a mob and all the others do is go and sniff the fallen one while I just pick another one off
they start to catch on after the second one but two is already too many for me to carry

Originally Posted by Bill999

Im such a fan boy of it and think its the tops and moved up from 22lr subs to 165gr ballistic tips at 1000fps to this then on to 44s and 45s and the subx 190gr is still the best iv used

Iv smacked pigs out of a mob and all the others do is go and sniff the fallen one while I just pick another one off
they start to catch on after the second one but two is already too many for me to carry

Just out of interest, do you think the more easily obtainable and cheaper typical FMJ 200+ gr subsonic 300BLK ammo would work for what you do?

Originally Posted by MB

Just out of interest, do you think the more easily obtainable and cheaper typical FMJ 200+ gr subsonic 300BLK ammo would work for what you do?

Subx just gives a little more margin for failure

My tikka 308 barrel and Brno 308 both probably wouldn’t stabilise the 200gr range as they are 1-10 twist so I couldn’t go heavier than the 165 ballistic tips I was using that were left overs essentially as they are too expensive to use to get fmj performance

Either way a cast lead projectile like the 151s Robert sells are perfect as everything exits and more energy into the environment behind them helps nothing

All the 300blk offers over subsonic 22lr is penitration
And it seems to smash bone and things that would stop the 22lr wth ease

So long story short I haven’t tried them but don’t see them as any better than the 165s that would zip right thru anyway




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I'm looking to import some peregrine projectiles

Also came across this, might be worth a go.

https://belmontammo.co.nz/product/30...p-subsonic-50/

Im going to give the 160 ftx s a go shortly as my loads are all going super out of the 16 barrels the honady 205s factory were very accurate and quiet but that was out of a ar 10in baby killa , now long gone

Pulled this from a red. Lehigh 168gr CF by far the quickest killer for body heart lung hilar shots on red deer, are a lot more forgiving if shot placement is a little off because of the fracturing petals damages more organs than a standard mushrooming projectile.
Had many bang flops with them.




Lehigh Defence 168gr Controlled fracturing and 198gr maximum expansion.



Roberts 151gr HP cast for daytime possums the dog points out and goats.
208gr eld-m long range subs for 250m head shots.
Lehigh Defence 168gr CF for deer only.
And if I want to make some noise 125gr Nosler BT supersonic for everything

https://www.tiktok.com/@peakviewrang...73687899915777

https://www.tiktok.com/@peakviewrang...73687899915777

This is a goat we xray'd after it was shot with a 150gr SST impact velocity was 1750fps at 110m

I do a lot of shooting with the blackout but when using sub sonics be prepared for a search like you would bow hunting.

Mmmm... I watched a Gunblue59 vid a while ago, last year sometime, where he dismissed the Blackout as the least useful/appropriate calibre ever sold to hunters. Does nothing well enough that existing calibres don't already do and better. Best left for its intended military purpose- an AR platform round for quiet close quarters fighting. Well that was his opinion anyway - after a lifetime of military and police weapons training, hunting and gunsmithing. Some validation for that view in this thread so far (ducking and diving)

But each to their own and if soneone wants to lend me one I'll happily try it out lol