Thread: 600M GUN

Quote..I wouldn't even consider anything in the 308 case capacity range. It would simply be cruel.

Tahr ...question...my mate uses 190gr,1;10 twist,22 in barrel...Ive seen him take caribou out ,clean kill at 6-700 yds...and that’s a .308........your thoughts??

Originally Posted by A330driver

Quote..I wouldn't even consider anything in the 308 case capacity range. It would simply be cruel.

Tahr ...question...my mate uses 190gr,1;10 twist,22 in barrel...Ive seen him take caribou out ,clean kill at 6-700 yds...and that’s a .308........your thoughts??

My thoughts - it’s on the margin and maybe ok for an experienced shot but not for an average one using factory ammo I would advise a lot more horse power.

Originally Posted by Tahr

My thoughts - it’s on the margin and maybe ok for an experienced shot but not for an average one using factory ammo I would advise a lot more horse power.

I think personally if you really thinking of shooting out to 600m at game you be mad to use factory ammo.
Accuracy is so important and handloading you just get so much better accuracy and power than alot of factory ammo. 600m is pushing a 308 but theres plenty of yanks using one out to 800m on big elk with the right handloads so it must be capable but wouldnt dream using a factory load thou

Iv put a few hunred 308 Hornady 165 ssts down the range between 600yds to 800yds when I had a Burris eliminator 4x16x50,feed in the bullet drop at 750yds and BC.zeroed at a 100yds and away you go.All that on my old Mossberg ATR 100.With no wind and all going well,shooting moa was no problem at 750yds.Deer at long range is another story,unless you have everything in yr favour,i wouldnt take the shot,walk closer,you still got to get the deer.Rabbits and roos are good fun to practice on.
Hornady 165 ssts is good ammo if your rifle likes it.

Originally Posted by A330driver

my mate uses 190gr,1;10 twist,22 in barrel...Ive seen him take caribou out ,clean kill at 6-700 yds...and that’s a .308........your thoughts??

Are you sure about those numbers?

And is this mate and the sniper one and the same?

30-06 is a great all round cartridge with 180 @ 2700fps or 165 @ 2900fps. Or.300 wsm - 7*61S&H - 7rem mag types ifcyou want to play around.

What is he trying to kill ?

Bull thar at 600 is very different from fallow at 600...

You want enough energy at the far end. So something like a 30-06 with heavy projectiles or one of the common magnums (7mm or 300) seems sensible.

Originally Posted by ebf

What is he trying to kill ?

Bull thar at 600 is very different from fallow at 600...

You want enough energy at the far end. So something like a 30-06 with heavy projectiles or one of the common magnums (7mm or 300) seems sensible.

Reds and thar.
And that's what he is after one of the more common calibre's. Once he has worked out what brand of pills it likes and can buy of the shelf local.

7mm rem mag with hornady sst or eldx. I agree that if you need to ask the question you maybe aren't ready for that far. One thing tho, once you choose 7mm rem mag or 300 win or what ever stick to it and just learn to shoot it read wind I found it hard swapping rifles, cals every 100-200 rounds.

I hunt open tops mostly and with a 7mm rem mag and in 15 years I have only needed to take 1 or 2 shots out to 550 yards the rest have been under 450 yards which most medium calibers are a capable of. Large calibers make a mess of small deer so need to be accurate enough to take meat saving shots, i.e. the neck.
My suggestion is get good with whAt you got and stalk in a bit closer.

Originally Posted by Gkp

I hunt open tops mostly and with a 7mm rem mag and in 15 years I have only needed to take 1 or 2 shots out to 550 yards the rest have been under 450 yards which most medium calibers are a capable of. Large calibers make a mess of small deer so need to be accurate enough to take meat saving shots, i.e. the neck.
My suggestion is get good with whAt you got and stalk in a bit closer.

That's not the type of answer required.

Originally Posted by tetawa

That's not the type of answer required.

Ok... I would choose a Tikka in 7mm rem mag with Hornady precision hunter ammo

Originally Posted by Gkp

I hunt open tops mostly and with a 7mm rem mag and in 15 years I have only needed to take 1 or 2 shots out to 550 yards the rest have been under 450 yards which most medium calibers are a capable of. Large calibers make a mess of small deer so need to be accurate enough to take meat saving shots, i.e. the neck.
My suggestion is get good with whAt you got and stalk in a bit closer.

And i'll second it .not decrying the trend for long range shooting ,but aint it cheaper and heaps more fun to spend some time developing your stalking skills??

Originally Posted by kotuku

And i'll second it .not decrying the trend for long range shooting ,but aint it cheaper and heaps more fun to spend some time developing your stalking skills??

One has to walk the distance to recover the animal anyways, might as well close the distance and stalk in closer in the first place.

I’d suggest 7mmRM or 30-06, both capable of taking NZ game out to 600.... but require accurate shot placement. To my mind the bigger question is factory ammo. Having the right calibre is only half way there - you need to have ammo with the right type of high bc pill that will shoot accurately, preferably 0.5 moa or better in your rifle. And don’t believe the speed written on the box. So you want to check which calibre/s offers the best range of long range high bc factory ammo. For any long range shooting you really need to go to hand loads so you can get the performance needed from your rifle. I hand load for pretty much all my rifles, and have occasionally tried some of the new wiz-bang flash harry factory ammo and been very disappointed