Thread: An accuracy challenge

Originally Posted by ebf

Enjoying the new 10 twist Lilja 3-groover. It looks like a keeper

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very nice ebf!
308?

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Flippant comment. I am curious as to why the groups are not centred, where's the aiming point?

VC : the low right ones (B &D) are due to the monkey behind the rifle. E not 100% sure, probably wind - did not correct for wind age during the strings, mainly interested in elevation.

MSL : aim point was the central dot, groups not centered as this was for load dev, not zeroing. I'll zero the rifle once I've settled on a particular load.

Makes sense

@ebf are there 5 shots in that group on C?

wsm junkie : Yes, 5 into each letter

andy : correct, FTR rig

No reason at all why you cant head shoot sandflies with that set up,very nice.

Back in the late 80s early 90s I had an issue PH with a ZF84 Khales fixed 6x (post and hair reticle) a TX 1200 barrel that had a bit of use. (It failed the erosion gauge test) Armourers wanted to rebarrel it but it was always on exercise or away from camp when they came looking for it.


Anyway, that old thing would shoot groups like A all day long and the majority were like C with issue F4 ball ammo.

Don't know what happened to it once the AW come in.

How much more mucking around to get it where you want it ebf?
What type and weight projectile?

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Originally Posted by R93

Back in the late 80s early 90s I had an issue PH with a ZF84 Khales fixed 6x (post and hair reticle) a TX 1200 barrel that had a bit of use. (It failed the erosion gauge test) Armourers wanted to rebarrel it but it was always on exercise or away from camp when they came looking for it.

Anyway, that old thing would shoot groups like A all day long and the majority were like C with issue F4 ball ammo.

Malcolm had one that would happily make head shots all day at 600... he shot a 5 shot 2.5" group with it at 600 not long before he got out. Some of those rifles were awesome and he was doing a lot of shooting at the time.

I have some plans to run a old style sniper match at some stage (500 and 600 yards) - Hawkins position, fire on command, sand bag barricades, loop holes, camouflage nets... Would be great to have a few entry classes (service pre-1990, service post-1990, and open class) but I am pretty sure most people will want to just shoot in open class.

Originally Posted by Gillie

Malcolm had one that would happily make head shots all day at 600... he shot a 5 shot 2.5" group with it at 600 not long before he got out. Some of those rifles were awesome and he was doing a lot of shooting at the time.

I have some plans to run a old style sniper match at some stage (500 and 600 yards) - Hawkins position, fire on command, sand bag barricades, loop holes, camouflage nets... Would be great to have a few entry classes (service pre-1990, service post-1990, and open class) but I am pretty sure most people will want to just shoot in open class.

I am sure Malcolm does as well but I remember the badge shoot to the detail.

I shot a 245 in practice with that PH rifle missed one walking @500. My partner did as well and straight after me. He did it with hot barrel.
Best score with the AW was only 235.



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did some load development last weekend so i could mover to 2208. Zeroed on on the top dot then put 4 round into the bottom dot, but pulled the 5th with a bad recoil, then put the 6th into the same hole. 155 Dyers

guessing 155gr?
Good shooting

Pretty much happy to call it quits with that sheet Dave. Just shoot over multiple days in different temp ranges to confirm consistency.

PM'ed you the projectile details.

You should have buried the PH & TX 1200 still see one of those come up on TM every now and then.

@ebf what is the variable you are testing in those group? powder charge or seating depth?? Or is it more conformation of your end load?

Wsm junkie : powder charge, looking for low elevation and low sd, see http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz/f10/refining-loads-through-velocity-plateaux-36585/]this thread for process