Thread: An accuracy challenge

Originally Posted by gimp

Need to get a better editing program

...or more practice.
I use the free Windows movie maker, view format 16:9 for full screen.

Originally Posted by Norway

...or more practice.
I use the free Windows movie maker, view format 16:9 for full screen.

Windows movie maker loses the sound from the AVCHD files that my camera records to.

Challenge accepted.
Todays shooting.
-6C and 1028 hPa.
Scope not adjusted between loads.
Vertical spread is shooter erro rmethinks.

I have a 0.6 MOA rifle ?

Here is a target shot @ 200m(219y?) was checking POI difference off bags vs pod worst group 1.5" amax best group barnes .67"

Rock River Arms Elite Operator, two 5 shot groups, 100m resting the vertical grip on a sand bag, rolled up swanny as rear bag, 77gr SMK, 24.1gr Reloder 15.


Other three holes are from generic fodder made with bulk amount in mind



I'd call this load as "showing promise". Have shot a quite a few sub 1" 3&5 shot groups with a bunch of different factory loads over the time I've had it. It is generally a .75-1MOA shooter off the bench. It's average group size opened up quite a bit until I cleaned the tube properly, but this was after probably 300+ rounds with nothing but the occasional oily patch down it.

I think gimp is trying to get at the difference in potential accuracy and consistent accuracy. I had a T3 once that every now and then shot a sub-MOA group with cheap ammo but most the time would shoot ~1.5"-2"... Potentially it was a sub-MOA rifle but not consistently... If you want to go bragging about small group sizes step up to the gimp's challenge.

Thats why I posted 4 groups shot in two different styles with 2 different loads,worst under.75 MOA

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Thats why I posted 4 groups shot in two different styles with 2 different loads,worst under.75 MOA

Was a general comment, wasn't aimed at you so don't panic.

I wasnt
I haven't owned many rifles but I would have thought pretty consistent MOA performance would be the norm for a modern factory rifle with a load that it likes.
Certainly you would be pissed if your mega buck custom rifle wouldnt shoot MOA?

Only reason I post those two groups is cuz it is the only photographic evidence of how that rifle shoots. Will update next time I shoot it for score. It's up to you guys whether you believe it or not. I won't lie, it shoots like a shotgun with some ammo. I will add that the "all day long" thing does sound really gay. It boggles my mind some of the stuff I've seen at the local range, where guys that have sunk a ton of money into rifles, optics etc have their shots going all over the place. Then the aforementioned " oh yea that's good enough to hit a deer" comes into it. My mate shot like a 7" 3 shot group at 200m with his .270 and thought fuck yea that's good. You will usually find those kinds of people think that their gear is the shit and you're a wanker if you don't get this caliber or this rifle brand. It's a load of shit and all part of a dumb, immature fudd mentality. But I digress...

At the Dunedin NZDA range a MOA is about as rare as a Moa most Saturdays, let alone one with 5 shots on 5 different targets.

OK, here goes my very quick effort with my 20 Tactical. 25.4gr N133, CCI 450's 40gr vmax. Shot a group a minute with a minute between groups. Bipod with small field bag, same as when I'm rabbit shooting. Rate of fire is similar to what it can be like when rabbit shooting too! 0.681 average...

I like this target as a true test of accuracy and shooting ability.

Maybe we should standardise it for 100??

Or this one Official NRA Small Bore Rifle Targets Long Gun Shooting Targets

Dammit cocked that up but similar with scoring rings

I haven't really tried to shoot groups before, but I needed to get a windage zero on my f class rifle, so I zeroed my windage, then threw another 5 shots at it just for gimp

First shot was my point of impact, moved it over to zero the windage.