Thread: An accuracy challenge

Only reason I post those two groups is cuz it is the only photographic evidence of how that rifle shoots. Will update next time I shoot it for score. It's up to you guys whether you believe it or not. I won't lie, it shoots like a shotgun with some ammo. I will add that the "all day long" thing does sound really gay. It boggles my mind some of the stuff I've seen at the local range, where guys that have sunk a ton of money into rifles, optics etc have their shots going all over the place. Then the aforementioned " oh yea that's good enough to hit a deer" comes into it. My mate shot like a 7" 3 shot group at 200m with his .270 and thought fuck yea that's good. You will usually find those kinds of people think that their gear is the shit and you're a wanker if you don't get this caliber or this rifle brand. It's a load of shit and all part of a dumb, immature fudd mentality. But I digress...

I wasnt
I haven't owned many rifles but I would have thought pretty consistent MOA performance would be the norm for a modern factory rifle with a load that it likes.
Certainly you would be pissed if your mega buck custom rifle wouldnt shoot MOA?

At the Dunedin NZDA range a MOA is about as rare as a Moa most Saturdays, let alone one with 5 shots on 5 different targets.

OK, here goes my very quick effort with my 20 Tactical. 25.4gr N133, CCI 450's 40gr vmax. Shot a group a minute with a minute between groups. Bipod with small field bag, same as when I'm rabbit shooting. Rate of fire is similar to what it can be like when rabbit shooting too! 0.681 average...

Only just read this thread, most of my ammo has been earmarked for the upcoming LR day but could probably manage a few groups with the 223 in a couple of days.

I love how people complain about other peoples groups.

Its very easy to hold MOA with an accurate rifle and ideal conditions.

Its very hard to hold MOA with an accurate rifle and most hunting conditions.

Deal with it, practice, move on.

MOA isn't even good, I dont think ive ever seen a rifle that couldnt shoot under MOA with tuning.

Chris

Originally Posted by crnkin

I love how people complain about other peoples groups.

Its very easy to hold MOA with an accurate rifle and ideal conditions.

Its very hard to hold MOA with an accurate rifle and most hunting conditions.

Deal with it, practice, move on.

MOA isn't even good, I dont think ive ever seen a rifle that couldnt shoot under MOA with tuning.

Chris

I thought long and hard for something smart to say to you, but im so used to you and your "speakings" all ive got is "CRANKN" "CRANKN" "CRANKN" "CRANKN" "CRANKN" "CRANKN" .......

Originally Posted by baldbob

I thought long and hard for something smart to say to you, but im so used to you and your "speakings" all ive got is "CRANKN" "CRANKN" "CRANKN" "CRANKN" "CRANKN" "CRANKN" .......

Haha penis.

I need to come over there for cuddles now your allowed out after hours.

To me its not IF you can shoot 1" c/c at 100y...It's HOW. If somebody told me they did it on their guts with a bipod i'd be fairly impressed actually. If they did it in a fair breeze i'd also be very impressed. Putting 5 rounds on the same spot only tells me that your wind stayed nice and constant. You're also a guy that can keep his heart rate down too. But as for the capability of a modern rifle, i believe a good shot could pick up ANY T3 or remington or savage and shoot sub MOA.

I've done it with a spring powered semi recoiless air rifle (an RWS '54) using a shitty simmons 4x scope off a bench. It took me 2 days of endless pellets down range until the wind stopped for a full 5 mins. Thats doing it with only 800ft/sec with 21gn 'barracouda' pellets.

Im all for sending mountains of lead downrange (i wont be as i cant afford it ha ha). But i do think there's a good balance point between perfectionism and being practical. Enough range time / comp time to ensure that the hunting stays sharp and vice versa.

Done this today after i had my rifle bedded, it's only 3 but it is pissing down with rain sporadically today so it was a get it done and go situation.
At 100m of the bonnet of my truck.

Originally Posted by Malhunting

Done this today after i had my rifle bedded, it's only 3 but it is pissing down with rain sporadically today so it was a get it done and go situation.
At 100m of the bonnet of my truck.

Very nice, its a basterd shooting off a bonnet!

Yeah not at all easy but had to be done, away hunting this arvo just hope the rain stops at some stage.
Triangle is 26mm so just over an inch.

Originally Posted by Malhunting

Done this today after i had my rifle bedded, it's only 3 but it is pissing down with rain sporadically today so it was a get it done and go situation.
At 100m of the bonnet of my truck.

Did that a couple of times in the weekend of my bonnet for the first three shots with the 22-250Ai with 75gr amaxs (well one like it and one close) but it was bloody hard getting five shot groups like it of the bonnet, Mind you I wasn't let it cool between shots either as I was just testing some loads quickly, Forgot the table so couldn't use the chrony...so just banged them off quickly and one load looks to be a keeper

Originally Posted by leathel

Did that a couple of times in the weekend of my bonnet for the first three shots with the 22-250Ai with 75gr amaxs (well one like it and one close) but it was bloody hard getting five shot groups like it of the bonnet, Mind you I wasn't let it cool between shots either as I was just testing some loads quickly, Forgot the table so couldn't use the chrony...so just banged them off quickly and one load looks to be a keeper

Freestyler

Originally Posted by Tui4Me

Freestyler

No point waiting for the rifle to cool each time between shots to much as that is not how it happens in the feild.... Might get the tiny little group but at least the first three must stay tight..... and up here there is F/all rabbits so you dont shoot many more than that in quick repitition so this rig has a lighter barrel.... But it does seam to open up after the first three.....or my shooting turns to shit

A couple of the shots the bypod slid on the bonnet but still happy enough with the load testing to load a bunch for now, will try another powder at some stage for max speed but this will do the owner of the rifle as it shoots further than he can see the rabits with the naked eye.