Thread: Better vetting of police needed?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yes I am asking what the vetting process is because I don't know for a fact what it is.

If truly anyone can snap under the pressures of life and murder others then I actually support a total disarmament of the entire country.

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You are thinking about this wrong. We need more guns and a practical right to self defense in order to defend ourselves from crazed madmen.

I wonder if the Mental Health Foundation will continue to call for people with existing mental health conditions to be allowed to become police recruits?

Because, according to chief executive Shaun Robinson, those with mental illnesses often dealt with stress better than those without.

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

You are thinking about this wrong. We need more guns and a practical right to self defense in order to defend ourselves from crazed madmen.

Really? More guns to defend ourselves?

You sound like a crazed madman.

No matter how bad life could get I just cannot see me murdering anyone I just don't have the malice required.
Defense of myself or family yes in a it's me or them situation but cold blooded murder no.
That takes a different personality type than mine and of that I am certain.

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Normal people can and do snap(life isn't easy), gunning someone down however is at the very extreme end of this.
Police need to be better than the average member of the public.
They need to be mentally stronger, physically stronger and have stronger morals than that of Joe public.

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Originally Posted by Ginga

Police do a great job as far as I'm concerned. Easy to throw stones but who's keen to turn up to gang HQ and sort problems.....

Mate, just give me the means and the permission.
I'm sick of these of these gangs, they should have a 3 strike policy, 3 acts of organized crime by a "organization" and they should be disbanded.
I don't see the police sorting out gang problems at all.



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Originally Posted by veitnamcam

No matter how bad life could get I just cannot see me murdering anyone I just don't have the malice required.
Defense of myself or family yes in a it's me or them situation but cold blooded murder no.
That takes a different personality type than mine and of that I am certain.

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Everyone has a tipping point.

Originally Posted by systolic

Really? More guns to defend ourselves?

You sound like a crazed madman.

If you're worried about me then get yourself a gun.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

No matter how bad life could get I just cannot see me murdering anyone I just don't have the malice required.
Defense of myself or family yes in a it's me or them situation but cold blooded murder no.
That takes a different personality type than mine and of that I am certain.

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I kind of agree with you and I think suicide is much the same, but in saying that the mind is a powerful thing which can be hard to control. A man I had known for over 12 years had 3 kids and wife and worth 50+ million and had just had his 60th decided he would jump out the window with a bit of rope. He was a straight up type of guy and you would have thought he had every thing together, I had even talked to him that night.................bloody shame but you just never know.

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Yes I am asking what the vetting process is because I don't know for a fact what it is.

If truly anyone can snap under the pressures of life and murder others then I actually support a total disarmament of the entire country.

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Really, doesnt mean that people that do such things use a firearm. Its far more likely a knife, bashing their heads in,run them over with a car etc is far more likely than using a firearm.Disarmament of the country wouldnt do a darm thing. Some snap by taking ones own life, most dont use a firearm. Stress, depression, rage , greive etc all do different things to different people and its unknown how it might effect ones selve.
If you had kids and some person raped and chopped them up into pieces and you ran into them face to face, how you going to react or what would you do? Its all good saying what you might or might not do but until you in that situation you going to have no idea, its life

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

No matter how bad life could get I just cannot see me murdering anyone I just don't have the malice required.
Defense of myself or family yes in a it's me or them situation but cold blooded murder no.
That takes a different personality type than mine and of that I am certain.

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Originally Posted by deer243

Really, doesnt mean that people that do such things use a firearm. Its far more likely a knife, bashing their heads in,run them over with a car etc is far more likely than using a firearm.Disarmament of the country wouldnt do a darm thing. Some snap by taking ones own life, most dont use a firearm. Stress, depression, rage , greive etc all do different things to different people and its unknown how it might effect ones selve.
If you had kids and some person raped and chopped them up into pieces and you ran into them face to face, how you going to react or what would you do? Its all good saying what you might or might not do but until you in that situation you going to have no idea, its life

Needs to be taken into context with my post above Jase.

I have had some pretty shit times in my life and some of it is exactly nailed on the head in your post,yes I knew him, yes I was fucken angry and yes I met him again after the fact. No I didn't kill him,or punch him,or even acknowledge him.
I could have killed him at anytime if I wanted to but I am not a murderer or rapist or torturer. THIS I KNOW!

If you dont KNOW you are not a murderer should you be in possession of firearms?

If shit got so bad I could not deal with it I would be more likely to take my own life but my beliefs stop me doing that too (no I am not religious )

Anyone can snap they say, everyone ha a tipping point.....nup I dont buy it sorry.

It is tragic but some of us are murderers and most of us(thankfully) are not.

Originally Posted by deer243

Really, doesnt mean that people that do such things use a firearm. Its far more likely a knife, bashing their heads in,run them over with a car etc is far more likely than using a firearm.Disarmament of the country wouldnt do a darm thing. Some snap by taking ones own life, most dont use a firearm. Stress, depression, rage , greive etc all do different things to different people and its unknown how it might effect ones selve.
If you had kids and some person raped and chopped them up into pieces and you ran into them face to face, how you going to react or what would you do? Its all good saying what you might or might not do but until you in that situation you going to have no idea, its life

I will answer this one for @veitnamcam and properly a lot of others with kids. You are correct no firearm would be needed but justice would be served! would I feel better for it........fuck yea!!

Originally Posted by screamO

I will answer this one for @veitnamcam and properly a lot of others with kids. You are correct no firearm would be needed but justice would be served! would I feel better for it........fuck yea!!

opps, maybe I was just answering this one for myself.

I wouldn't say cops have higher morals than the rest of us. I'm sure they wouldn't agree with that themselves. Normal people with a job to do (that we tend to loath when it involves ourselves). I also wouldn't think the boys in blue will rally around this fella. They'd be pissed that one of their own just undid years of hard work winning the trust of the public.