Thread: Boycott 'The Petone Gunshop"...

Just read three mentioned above. All well thought out and articulate. To me the common thread is police are under resourced to handle this even now.
Like the submissions or not it was their right to make them. They got off their arses and did something.
You have to engage in a process like this imo to have the right to comment on the actions of someone who does.
"All it takes for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing"
I made a submission probably not as articulate as these, but I suspect far too many "good men " did not.

Originally Posted by grunzter

I copied this from a facebook post (without permission)
But sums up Greg O'conners submission very well.

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How about in paragraph 10?

Originally Posted by gadgetman

I got plenty out of that Rushy. Basically he said his lads were too busy writing death reports at the bottom of the cliff. As a result of this he would like to remove everyone's legs to stop anyone getting to the top of the cliff. Unfortunately he completely missed the opportunity to just send a couple of his lads up the hill to turn the few walking to the cliff away.

Basically his lads need to get back to basic policing and stop the rot at a much earlier stage. This needs the backing of the Police hierarchy, courts, parliament and the rest of the good people of this country.

O'Conner is a union official. He has no more say over police operations than the Maritime Union do over the bosses at Ports of Auckland or Tauranga.

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Originally Posted by mikee

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I've made some comments on that article, awaiting moderation (censorship to match the desired narrative?).

"Association president Greg O'Connor​ said no-one knew how many weapons were in the hands of criminals."

"Too many guns of the wrong type are in the wrong hands, the Police Association says."


Mmm, kay. So they don't know how many illegal firearms are out there but there are too many of the "wrong type"? I'd have thought any illegal firearm would be the wrong type.

Originally Posted by systolic

O'Conner is a union official. He has no more say over police operations than the Maritime Union do over the bosses at Ports of Auckland or Tauranga.

Yes, and the inference is that they are members of the Police force rather than a knitting circle.

Originally Posted by gadgetman

Yes, and the inference is that they are members of the Police force rather than a knitting circle.

Surely they would Mike Bush's lads then?

Most union presidents or representatives I've dealt with over the years want their members to do less work, not more.

Why would the police officer's union be any different?

Originally Posted by systolic

Surely they would Mike Bush's lads then?

Most union presidents or representatives I've dealt with over the years want their members to do less work, not more.

Why would the police officer's union be any different?

Quite right there too. But I think the guts of the submission is to improve his members safety which is fair enough.

Originally Posted by kotuku

dont forget massive when you crow about todays technology and you beloved data your old man didnt need all this shit to sire you and your siblings ,and frankly if it werent for old values and commonsense you wouldnt be where you are today.
Me Im one of those oldies and fucking proud of it.computers are like bossess politicians &civilservants to me -ya got punch a lotta shit in to get just as much (often)garbled shit out.as for todays kids -modern education is piss poor fullstop-NCEA is a bloody crock legacy of the lawyer of mangeres inept socialist engineering -much admired and continued by herr Cluck Whose dental work in a mate of mines words "looks like a test keyboard at the steinway factory

I agree, you do punch in a lot of shit and get a lot of garbled shit out.

The below is taken from Petone Gun Shop site under the sale Banner of a Saiga "A" Cat semi Auto Sporting Rifle
What I am stuck with is
Is the below some sort of disclaimer?
Public Service Announcement?
In complete contrast to his submission.

SAIGA sporting firearms are manufactured in Russia by the firm 'KALASHNIKOV CONCERN' - a merger between Izhmash and Izhmekh. The company also builds Kalashnikov rifles for the Russian military and export. Many years ago Mikhail Kalashnikov worked at the factory and SAIGA rifles retain a number of the rugged features of the original AK-47 assault rifle.

A word concerning the possible future of 'A' cat semi-automatic rifles.
* The original intent of the 1992 Arms Amendment Bill was to severely restrict possession of semi- automatic rifles that had a high rate of fire and were attractive to particular people. Similar laws were enacted in a number of countries at around the same time.
* Arms laws are generally 'toughened up' as a result of either (a) - a number of illegal shooting incidents, or (b) - a Politician or high ranking Police Officer believing certain firearms 'should not be available to the public' Such situations could occur anywhere in the world - but still effect our laws.
* The current international situation is now focusing world attention on the availability of firearms patterned after military weapons and/or other firearms capable of a high rate of fire.
* It follows that there could be changes to our laws and possession of firearms such as the SAIGA could be further restricted.
* For many years the possession of particular firearms by New Zealand's Responsible Firearms Community has depended on the actions of others, and right now the possession of semi-automatic rifles such as these 'A Cat Semi-auto Sporting Rifles' is in the hands of various international terrorist groups.
* The Responsible NZ Firearms Community should consider how to deal with this situation BEFORE an incident triggers law changes.

And he is the one contributing to the change of that law, and still making money out of it, the bastard!

Hi all i have just moved to auckland from perth wa, our gun laws are crap i have 6 rifles and had to apply for each of them, be carefull of the gun shops selling the second hand rifles as once it happens they offer you nothing as they would rather sell a new set up and the price of the second hand one they do sell is marked up just below the new rifles on the shelf . Will kill the second hand market.

Well worth a read of Greg O'Connors submission/novel....sounds like he wants to set up a taskforce of Police to "catch out" firearms owners flouting their firearms security requirements.
I guess we are much easier bad guys to catch!
Banning 50 cal, I guess the few that could afford to run these can upgrade to a 20mm then?

Originally Posted by Stoog1974

Hi all i have just moved to auckland from perth wa, our gun laws are crap i have 6 rifles and had to apply for each of them, be carefull of the gun shops selling the second hand rifles as once it happens they offer you nothing as they would rather sell a new set up and the price of the second hand one they do sell is marked up just below the new rifles on the shelf . Will kill the second hand market.

Hi welcome to the forum

Could you explain that a bit more please? - I don't understand your drift