Thread: Call to Arms

Originally Posted by systolic

Brave words until it's your door the cops kick in at 5.00am looking for the guns you haven't registered, shoot your dog and chuck stun grenades down the hallway.

Given their track record at trying to shoot dogs it would be pretty safe.

Re: inspections

It seems that a random inspection of security is next to useless unless it is functionally an unwarranted search of the property. Otherwise what do they do? Look in the gunsafe to check there aren't any guns not in there? Useless without knowing what should be in there. And of course registration is a massive headache for everyone involved in so many ways.

I've just had a meeting with the local Waimak National MP about this, he said it's been pretty topical.

I explained that the inquiry had drifted off its mandate & that NZ First seemed to be the only ones who saw it.

I expressed the shooting community's concern at the NZPA & NZ police making secret submissions & Mr Cahills tendency to make up stuff for the media & gave him an example.
We discussed sentencing or the lack of it for gang members caught with or using firearms, I also put forward that if burglars were targeted by the police the firearm thief rate would drop & to make the thief of a firearm an aggravating circumstance during sentencing, i.e you nick a gun & get caught you get 5yrs.
Interestingly he then brought up the cost of locking crims up & those who think we shouldn't be locking criminals up for long periods, etc I told him you can't have if both ways!

We discussed registration, I pointed out it didn't work last time & doubt it will work again, explained Canada's 2billon go at it.
So I've asked him to submit two questions to the Police Minister for me.
1, What % of Police recovered B&E cat firearms are traceable back to there rightfull owners?
2, what % of all recovered firearms are untraceable i.e don't have a serial number still on them?
It will be interesting to see what the answers are?

He agreed that even if the govt took all our firearms the crims would still get hold of them which lead us into discussing why punish us law abiding FAL holders when it won't change jack.

He said that Paula Bennett as Police minister has to report back to the select committee on what she thinks of the report by early July, I'd encourage all of you to email her outlining your concerns even if it's a quick paragraph.

I told him us voters would want to know Nationals policy on this before the election as a lot were worried about them pulling a swifty on it after the election (if they are still in!)

He thanked me for my time & I'm now home having a cuppa tea.

Good work outdoorlad thanks for putting the effort in.
With regards to your questions, I reckon the police response will be "no such data exists".

In the other hand... criminals are "not allowed" to stay long term in prison but we law abiding citizens "are allowed" to live inside our homes barricade as it is a prison so the criminals don't come inside... yeah, right!

Originally Posted by outdoorlad

Given their track record at trying to shoot dogs it would be pretty safe.

yeah to be fair they have a far better record when it comes to "innocent passers by"

Police News April 2017

Notice the comment about "military grade sniper rifles that can kill a person a kilometre away"? That's every .30 cal hunting rifle..

They aren't just coming for the 'scary black rifles'..

LoL how blames drugs for societal ills yet firearms are the "issue".

All this political gamesmanship by the union just shows its election year and is reinforcing who I'll be voting for.

Originally Posted by Koshogi

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Police News April 2017

Notice the comment about "military grade sniper rifles that can kill a person a kilometre away"? That's every .30 cal hunting rifle..

They aren't just coming for the 'scary black rifles'..

...all based on....? Lot's of assertions, no evidence and no basis in fact.
Another Cahill acolyte for sure.

Recent shipment smuggled and destined for Australia seized in US, same style can be bought here..... yeah with a lisence and correct endorsement. I really despise misleading story telling on matters like this

Originally Posted by Nickoli

...all based on....? Lot's of assertions, no evidence and no basis in fact.
Another Cahill acolyte for sure.

Maybe...just maybe ..... if the police put their speed camera's down, got off their arses and caught criminals they would be better off. Maybe if they lobbied the Judges and Politicians about deterrent sentences for firearms crimes they could chill out a bit.
I get a feeling the prick who wrote that thinks he's got a right to rule over us. Fuck him

Originally Posted by Gibo

Recent shipment smuggled and destined for Australia seized in US, same style can be bought here..... yeah with a lisence and correct endorsement. I really despise misleading story telling on matters like this

Military or plod grade could even mean a humble Rem 700.

Originally Posted by Steve123

Military or plod grade could even mean a humble Rem 700.

exactly

Doesnt military grade just mean the cheapest crap that the army can get away with?