Thread: Car crash radio interview with Chris Cahill

What I would like Cahill to answer is when does he think the criminals will register their guns? They wont because they cannot get a license!!!!!

What will happen if they recover a stolen firearm that has been used by a criminal when they check the registration and find it was reported stolen? Will it be returned to the RIGHTFUL owner now they know who it belongs to? No. Policy is to destroy it regardless once it is no longer needed for evidence. So why would he need to know who it had been stolen from?

Almost all firearms are already registered (MSSA, B, and C, Cat ones) so if they cannot do this in timely fashion how is addding more problems going to help them make it work?

Here is the challenge- If he is so convinced that it will work, will he bet his career and lifestyle on it? When it fails will he promise to go back to England in shame and stay there since he thinks their system is so great? (Oh and he can pay the bill off in installments....)

Originally Posted by timattalon

What I would like Cahill to answer is when does he think the criminals will register their guns? They wont because they cannot get a license!!!!!

What will happen if they recover a stolen firearm that has been used by a criminal when they check the registration and find it was reported stolen? Will it be returned to the RIGHTFUL owner now they know who it belongs to? No. Policy is to destroy it regardless once it is no longer needed for evidence. So why would he need to know who it had been stolen from?

Almost all firearms are already registered (MSSA, B, and C, Cat ones) so if they cannot do this in timely fashion how is addding more problems going to help them make it work?

Here is the challenge- If he is so convinced that it will work, will he bet his career and lifestyle on it? When it fails will he promise to go back to England in shame and stay there since he thinks their system is so great? (Oh and he can pay the bill off in installments....)

One of the COLFO reps recently commented on a case where an MSSA owner had his firearms stolen, and the gun charges being dropped against the perpetrator (no mention of others). The court ordered the destruction of his firearms, despite them being registered and able to be returned.

Originally Posted by Beavis

One of the COLFO reps recently commented on a case where an MSSA owner had his firearms stolen, and the gun charges being dropped against the perpetrator (no mention of others). The court ordered the destruction of his firearms, despite them being registered and able to be returned.

WTF!! When was this?

Originally Posted by Steve123

WTF!! When was this?

Unsure mate, best to ask COLFO

I'd still like to know why the media treat a trade union rep as if he is in command of the Police.
It's well known that socialists and communists don't want armed citizens.
As for the "criminals steal them from licenced owners" Maybe if plod done their core job and caught criminals there'd be less guns in the wrong hands.
He'd be using his time better lobbying judges on handing out meaningful sentences.

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Don’t be too surprised @Steve123 it’s been happening for some time.
This whole thing just suxs. How is it that we law abiding citizens that have been checked out by the police get treated like criminals.
Where as the crims get away with it.
This twit just spouts shit because he loves the sound of his own voice.... I wonder how many of the police he represents roll there eyes and say OH GOD there goes another load of good will down the tube in the community which we have spent years earning

Almost like that joke about year but year, but you shag 1 sheep.........

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Don’t be too surprised @Steve123 it’s been happening for some time.
This whole thing just suxs. How is it that we law abiding citizens that have been checked out by the police get treated like criminals.
Where as the crims get away with it.
This twit just spouts shit because he loves the sound of his own voice.... I wonder how many of the police he represents roll there eyes and say OH GOD there goes another load of good will down the tube in the community which we have spent years earning

Almost like that joke about year but year, but you shag 1 sheep.........

As Ive said before, our police have close ties with our gun hating neihbours aussie, plus if the tv programs are anything to go by, and absolute ton of English coppers. they have way more stringent firearms laws over there. If this Cahill chap is being influenced by those two factions, it would go a long way to identify where he is getting his dribble from. Guns Bad-must stop guns ugh, even if my statistics are wrong ugh

the muppet is being interviewed on zb talkback in christchurch this morning, he now wants chch cops armed constantly

You have a link to that interview @gonetropo ? Cheers

Originally Posted by Sideshow

You have a link to that interview @gonetropo ? Cheers

mother in law rang me, but he will be interviewed between now and mid day

https://www.iheart.com/live/newstalk...stchurch-6189/

My biggest problem is he is in a position that means the media listen to him. A few of his ideas actually have some merit, but the mantra and policies he nags on about undermine any good he would otherwise be able to achieve.

They say the squeaky wheel gets the oil (so he makes a lot of noise) but he should realise that the screeching wheel gets replaced..........

Guys I do live in the UK and have both a shotgun and firearms tickets. Are the laws here more strict?
Not really just different. You don’t need to sit any test. In fact to own a shotgun they don’t really ask for any prior experience. They don’t do separate interviews of the spouse.
So on a game day, or at a clay ground you could be standing right next to a person that has absolutely no idea.....and I have
Comparing the two countries it’s like grey v grey. Just different shades. Oh and there register on firearms is a joke. I needed to remind them twice that I had gifted my rifle to my father in NZ. They have enough trouble getting my name right. But each county is different my experience is for the Thames Valley police. Wiltshire just over the boarder is a total different kettle of fish. As in good fish and nice kettle.

Anyway statistics can be made to look like anything. ie a cut down shotgun is a pistol. And airsoft gun that looks like an ar....etc and coming from him he wants them to look like anything. Also look at one of those other interviews where the guy was saying that gun crimes in NZ are committed by the same small percentage of criminals again and again.

So Chail is telling us that we can’t trust the sats that are coming from the police? Umm so what can we trust? You need a really savvy reporter to just tear him a new one because he doesn’t seem to have to many clues. It wouldn’t be hard have all the facts in front of you and ask the questions when he doesn’t answer them...well now hilly old chap that’s not an answer is it...
This interviewer did a good job for his allocated time.

@Sideshow your rules are a more strict than here and the penalties are quite a bit harsher too I believe? I'll briefly summarize the small amount I know and if its wrong let me know.
You have registration,
you can only use the firearm that's on your registration papers,
if the cops don't think its valid you may not get papers to buy another rifle if its the same calibre as one you already own. Id imagine that comes down to the officer in charge, not necessarily the law
when prosecuted for firearms offences you get a penalty for each cartridge that you illegally own.
For many years there has been a power limit for air guns
You are limited to what shotgun ammo ie solids unless you have the right certificate/license
semiauto and pump rifles are only permitted if they are a rimfire-no centerfires
pistols used for sporting reasons were banned years ago.
Its way harder there than here

Originally Posted by csmiffy

@Sideshow your rules are a more strict than here and the penalties are quite a bit harsher too I believe? I'll briefly summarize the small amount I know and if its wrong let me know.
You have registration,
you can only use the firearm that's on your registration papers,
if the cops don't think its valid you may not get papers to buy another rifle if its the same calibre as one you already own. Id imagine that comes down to the officer in charge, not necessarily the law
when prosecuted for firearms offences you get a penalty for each cartridge that you illegally own.
For many years there has been a power limit for air guns
You are limited to what shotgun ammo ie solids unless you have the right certificate/license
semiauto and pump rifles are only permitted if they are a rimfire-no centerfires
pistols used for sporting reasons were banned years ago.
Its way harder there than here

thats because england is a caliphate of islam. so damn glad i got the hell out of there

See underlined.