Forum shooting challenge: The under 500 500

[Wingman]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Lis...?id=1969769834

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Lis...?id=1971776127

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Lis...?id=1973439218

[Ground Control]

Here is the challenge. You must post here the following.

The purchase of a scope and rifle combination for less than $500

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Im surprised no one has mentioned the Scope element of this challenge.
You may find a a reasonable rifle for under $500 , but the scope it has on it will probably let down the accuracy more than the half worn out barrel .

[winaa]

Im surprised no one has mentioned the Scope element of this challenge.
You may find a a reasonable rifle for under $500 , but the scope it has on it will probably let down the accuracy more than the half worn out barrel .

Exactly you basically need to spend $250 and a rifle and $250 on a scope can't see a $400 rifle and a $100 scope working very well.
Good idea and I like the idea of passing it on to new hunter/shooters in the buy-now section but not sure how feasible it will be in the budget given.
Maybe I need to take my blinkers off and think out side the box a bit (homemade aperture sights maybe?)

[ChrisW]

Doesn't the 6.5 Carcano have a funny bore diameter, i,e not .264?

[Tentman]

A scope is no problem, any old 4x will do, you just need to check it'll adjust and hold a zero. Heaps on TM for under a hundy.

[ChrisW]

Any of these would probably be decent choices. Parker Hale .308 is up there.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...c5f379f7595138

https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...c5f379f7595138

https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...c5f379f7595138

https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...c5f379f7595138

https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...c5f379f7595138

https://www.trademe.co.nz/sports/hun...c5f379f7595138

[Micky Duck]

1/4" group with .45 caliber cast slugs driven by home rolled black powder and shotgun bead front with pop rivet rear aperture.......hmmmmm somehow I dont think my chances are very high on this one.....oh did I mention its a sleaved barrel insert LOL.

[Wingman]

Doesn't the 6.5 Carcano have a funny bore diameter, i,e not .264?

Yes it does, anywhere from .267 to .274.. after slugging to get an accurate bore measurement, a suitable lee sizer die on some dirty ol .277 bullets works well to get them shooting like lasers. .270 Creedmoor anyone?

[Russian 22.]

I think this is a very interesting concept, but I wonder how practically possible and feasible this is without resorting to secondhand bargain hunting or rifles bought many years ago.

For 500m. 22LR will have to be shot like a mortar, 17hmr is too light, 22mag is better but still too unreliable. Realistically you need to be looking at 223 or 7.62x39. The cheapest 223 is either baikal IZH 18MH or norico bush ranger, both about 450-500. I dont know if you can still find 500 dollar SKS. However, none of these 3 rifles is likely to give you the accuracy needed for this competition.

This is not to say that you will never find an accurate example. You can, but it comes down largely to luck of draw. there may be one accurate cheap centre fire in every 20. Who is going to go through 20 to find that accurate example?

I bought a 308 M 98 for 400 with a scope. Its been used on deer out to 400 M.

Doesn't say anything about hand loads either. So with a good load and some of the old sewer pipes cleaned out then I'm sure they'd be accurate enough.

[Tentman]

More than half the benefit in an exercise like this is to prove (to ones self at least) that the latest super duper rifle is NOT required to shoot game out past reasonable distances (my personal limit is about 350M on game).

Does the rifle have to be sold? - I have a very rough (on the outside) M70 6.5x55 that I got for $350 but its promised to another forumite when he finally gets off his arse and gets his FA licence (eh Doug).

[Micky Duck]

Yes it does, anywhere from .267 to .274.. after slugging to get an accurate bore measurement, a suitable lee sizer die on some dirty ol .277 bullets works well to get them shooting like lasers. .270 Creedmoor anyone?

some of the new pills made for the 6.8 might be worth a crack......lol

[Tussock]

More than half the benefit in an exercise like this is to prove (to ones self at least) that the latest super duper rifle is NOT required to shoot game out past reasonable distances (my personal limit is about 350M on game).

Does the rifle have to be sold? - I have a very rough (on the outside) M70 6.5x55 that I got for $350 but its promised to another forumite when he finally gets off his arse and gets his FA licence (eh Doug).

Note is says "if sold at all" in brackets. The idea came form someone saying it cost X dollars to shoot X meters. Lets see if it is true.

I bought a 308 M 98 for 400 with a scope. Its been used on deer out to 400 M.

Doesn't say anything about hand loads either. So with a good load and some of the old sewer pipes cleaned out then I'm sure they'd be accurate enough.

I had one of these too, shot very well with barnaul and terrible with everything else. Something about mill spec ammo. It would work well.

[Tussock]

Bonus prize for the best hacksaw re-crown.

@Carlsenhighway

Sorry Carl, whoever you are

@Carlsen Highway

[Ultimitsu]

I bought a 308 M 98 for 400 with a scope. Its been used on deer out to 400 M.

Doesn't say anything about hand loads either. So with a good load and some of the old sewer pipes cleaned out then I'm sure they'd be accurate enough.

Sounds great, I am, and others might well be too, interested in how your rifle fare in this challenge.

[Beavis]

Damnit my free Marlin .223 would of been perfect for this