Getting Into Long Range Hunting - Ongoing thread

[Pop Shot]

Good idea - I'm getting bored shooting at steel at LR by myself.

Will flick you a text with a few days warning.... your 7mm mag might smash through my plate of steel haha.

Mossie - that looks the business - bloody accurate too!

[Kiwi Greg]

I did mention it shot quite well didn't I

Glad it is behaving for you

[veitnamcam]

I did mention it shot quite well didn't I

Glad it is behaving for you

Whos apprentice are you Greg?

[Philipo]

Sweet, it's looking good Mossie


Will have to have a range / pratice day in the next couple of weeks ( I just have to get my shit organised first )

[jakewire]

Looks real good, I say rather enviously.

[Mossie]

Quick update - My goal of shooting a deer at 500 yards was reached on boxing day 565 was the magic number.

Once I get the photo from the camera, I will post up a bit more of a story.

[veitnamcam]

waiting for pics

[puku]

nice

looking forward to a write up

[Shootm]

Good stuff

[Kiwi Greg]

Looks like a just right setup. Nothing too expensive or flashy but all bases covered. Good bullet, stable rifle, repeatable scope. Now just shoot the shit out of it!!!!!

You could wait 17 months for an ultra super match precision custom barrel in .317 Lardo Ultra Wildcat with a bore hand lapped by Venetian midgets using handfuls of Keira Nightleys pubes. Have an NZ Gunsmith screw it (crooked) into an action which is an imported CNC lathe produced REM 700 that is 5 times heavier, 5 times straighter, 20 times shinier and 5 times more expensive. Mount it into a stock that looks like a MillSpec coated Darlics cock. Fit a trigger that breaks at 4 ounces. By coincidence, after purchasing it your credit card now breaks if you try to spend $4. Wait another 10 months for custom dies from whoever created .317 Lardo Ultra by necking down .318 Lardo Magnum. Another five months for hand turned custom solids designed by some guy who used to sweep up at NASA. Spend three weeks and 2000 dollars fire forming your brass. Wait another 5 months for more projectiles. Do your load development. Change your muzzle break. Wait five months for projectiles. Re-do your load development with the new muzzle break. You go to a LR shoot with the guys from NZHS. Everyone loves your rifle, under their glowing admiration you cant resist letting everyone have a shot. Wait another five months for projectiles. You shoot a deer. Your barrel is now shot out. Order another barrel.

After that will you be a better shot than if you buy a second hand rifle off Kiwi Greg and a second hand M4 and then spend the time shooting?

I fucken doubt it.

Tussock
That has to be the best post I have read in ages

I got an extended mag box of TM, it turns out the guy bought a 300 Rum Sendero off me.
He is over the moon, shoots .4 at 100 with 208s & he has no issues hitting his 12" gong at 900
That was another one I got & was going to turn it into an Edge but it was far to good to wreck.
I can't believe the money guys pay for some rifles, custom & fancy factory.

[Tui4Me]

Tussock, do you still have that .317 Lardo for sale?

Got any pics that show how shiny the barrel is?

[The Claw]

Looks like a just right setup. Nothing too expensive or flashy but all bases covered. Good bullet, stable rifle, repeatable scope. Now just shoot the shit out of it!!!!!

You could wait 17 months for an ultra super match precision custom barrel in .317 Lardo Ultra Wildcat with a bore hand lapped by Venetian midgets using handfuls of Keira Nightleys pubes. Have an NZ Gunsmith screw it (crooked) into an action which is an imported CNC lathe produced REM 700 that is 5 times heavier, 5 times straighter, 20 times shinier and 5 times more expensive. Mount it into a stock that looks like a MillSpec coated Darlics cock. Fit a trigger that breaks at 4 ounces. By coincidence, after purchasing it your credit card now breaks if you try to spend $4. Wait another 10 months for custom dies from whoever created .317 Lardo Ultra by necking down .318 Lardo Magnum. Another five months for hand turned custom solids designed by some guy who used to sweep up at NASA. Spend three weeks and 2000 dollars fire forming your brass. Wait another 5 months for more projectiles. Do your load development. Change your muzzle break. Wait five months for projectiles. Re-do your load development with the new muzzle break. You go to a LR shoot with the guys from NZHS. Everyone loves your rifle, under their glowing admiration you cant resist letting everyone have a shot. Wait another five months for projectiles. You shoot a deer. Your barrel is now shot out. Order another barrel.

After that will you be a better shot than if you buy a second hand rifle off Kiwi Greg and a second hand M4 and then spend the time shooting?

I fucken doubt it.

Yep, all pretty much on the money. KG will know better than most about not being able to get projectiles to shoot... A reliable source of "sensible" projectiles should be one of the first things that is considered when developing a load/building a rifle.

This is a major reason that I built a 338 rather than a 375 for LR. The 300gr SMK was readily available and the 300gr Hybrid was coming. There was (still is) all sorts of wild fantasy 375 ultra high bc projectiles being tested through specialised gain twist etc barrels. Building something based around one of these would result in a very expensive safe dweller "coz I'm waiting on projectiles for my ultra specialised barrel as it won't shoot anything readily available (which are all flying bricks designed for close range big game felling)" (in my opinion). Sure, barrel life is better in a 375 (who really cares when you are building something like this?) but the projectiles at $5 a pop would make for a much more expensive beast to run, not to mention that you couldn't afford to shoot it coz either (1) its to expensive, and/or (2) you don't have any projectiles...

It is also the main reason I have a 7mm as my main hunting rifle. Either 162gr amax or 180gr hybrids/vld's make excellent LR projectiles, and there are heaps of choices for closer range things.

In saying all this, both my 7mm and 338 are custom cases, with custom dies, but since Greg Duley had done all the the load development/testing, it cut out basically all the BS of building something a bit different. Not wanting to push Greg's stuff, but I think his light weight LR rigs are a very good combination of parts without going crazy with custom actions etc.

[Bremic]

Claw, are you using the Hybrids on game?

[The Claw]

Claw, are you using the Hybrids on game?

I plan to... From what I've been told they perform very well. I have been using the 300gr SMK's with very good results, but have recently done a bit of load work with the 300gr Hybrids but need to do some long range verification with them prior to looking for game. Just recently got the 7mm, missed a bull tahr last time out (my fault) and not likely to get out hunting for a month or 2 now to try it out. I have a property with a heap of goats that need culling so will get there... Also need some venison so maybe an evening mission to the local "meat safe" will happen sooner rather than later.

[sniper80]

Looks like a great set-up. I've just set up a very similar rig. I decided to go brand new and got a Tikka Varmint in 7mm Rem Mag topped with a Olivon scope. Have been very impressed so far (45 rnds). Best so far was 5 balloons with 6 shots at 600m.