Thread: Gun Cleaning

Originally Posted by stuart165

was also just told not to dip my brushes into the solvent as the residue will kill the solvent over time, just drip it onto the brush.

True, I decant solvent into smaller containers, and use those for cleaning, it does not last long enough for contamination to become an issue.

Opposite is also true, if you leave solvent on the bronze brushes and jags, the solvent will start eating those. Rinse the brushes and jags in a general purpose thinner to make them last longer.

Originally Posted by ebf

True, I decant solvent into smaller containers, and use those for cleaning, it does not last long enough for contamination to become an issue.

Opposite is also true, if you leave solvent on the bronze brushes and jags, the solvent will start eating those. Rinse the brushes and jags in a general purpose thinner to make them last longer.

Where do you get the solvent from ebf? I take it thats what removes the copper

I don't use solvent, just oil. Am I a bad person??!

And tape on the end is an absolute must. I carry a bit of extra taped around the stock so I can recover after first shot before trekking over for a carry out.


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I'm surprised at the number of people using tape over the barrel. Does that mean I'm just lucky then that I don't get rubbish in my barrel for the last 40yrs?

Originally Posted by Dougie

I don't use solvent, just oil. Am I a bad person??!

Terrible, 5 lashes

Originally Posted by possummatti

Where do you get the solvent from ebf? I take it thats what removes the copper

Gunshop. Different solvents do different things. Some (hoppes, collings) are general purpose, some are specific to copper, carbon etc.

To the OP,
As others have suggested, a bore guide and a one peice rod are a very good starting point for maintaining rifled barrels.
After that there is an endless amount of online & published material regarding products, techniques, frequency, facts & fallacies.
It will take a lot reading and trying a few things to come up with your own regimen.
Don't get too hung up on all the different ideas and find what works for you within your budget.

Originally Posted by Barefoot

I'm surprised at the number of people using tape over the barrel. Does that mean I'm just lucky then that I don't get rubbish in my barrel for the last 40yrs?

I've always taped the muzzle to try and mitigate the chance of plugging the barrel if I tripped, as much as stopping debris.

Personally I think heavy cleaning ie scrubbing the bore with nasty solvents and especially removing copper is a bad idea but I know I am in a minority.

Certainly you need to remove carbon every 200 rounds or so depending on the barrel, some foul at <100 some go a lot longer.

So I clean with a carbon solvent and brass brush, mop out, repeat if really gunky and put a wet oiled patch through, that's it.

My reason for not cleaning the copper off is due to some "exotic" tribology theory ie at high velocities the copper goes liquid and reduces friction substantially. Same theory of skiing and skis.

regards

regards

I'm with you Steve. The military is only just learning that an over zealous cleaning regime does more damage than a unclean barrel will ever do.

I ensure all working parts are free of dirt and lubed where required etc.
Barrel sees a rod once every 100-150 rounds and it is a light regime of carbon removal.
I use HBN on my projectiles for my centrefires. This may help a lot but I never see much copper and only have carbon buildup.
Having good aftermarket barrels help as well I spose.



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Oh and to oil / protect the bore, an engine upper cylinder oil from repco is 1/2 the price of fancy gun oils, its also is supposed to loosen baked on carbon, what a good idea that sounds.

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Other areas I use Baristol.

I side with the less is more approach too.

Originally Posted by R93

I'm with you Steve. The military is only just learning that an over zealous cleaning regime does more damage than a unclean barrel will ever do.

I ensure all working parts are free of dirt and lubed where required etc.
Barrel sees a rod once every 100-150 rounds and it is a light regime of carbon removal.
I use HBN on my projectiles for my centrefires. This may help a lot but I never see much copper and only have carbon buildup.
Having good aftermarket barrels help as well I spose.



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Whats HBN

HBN (hexagonal boron nitride) is what the projectile coating fraternity is now using once they found out that molybdenum disulfide was not the miracle cure...

Originally Posted by Gibo

Whats HBN

Hexagonal Boron Nitride.

It reduces friction and lines your barrel with a ceramic coating.
Heaps better than moly in my experience and less messy.


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Originally Posted by R93

Hexagonal Boron Nitride.

It reduces friction and lines your barrel with a ceramic coating.
Heaps better than moly in my experience and less messy.


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Oh really, I just press them in and pull. Do you put it on before loading up or after?