Thread: Guys, please adivise...re discharging a firearm...

Originally Posted by LOC

what are the rules with shooting from boats? is it just the same as above? i can't see anything in the firearms code nor anywhere else

Look up shooting from a vehicle.

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by P38

Look up shooting from a vehicle.

All I can find with reference to a boat is

"Boat"
"Duck shooters should check their game license before using a firearm in a boat."

So what does this mean in relation to discharging a firearm from a boat?

Originally Posted by LOC

All I can find with reference to a boat is

"Boat"
"Duck shooters should check their game license before using a firearm in a boat."

So what does this mean in relation to discharging a firearm from a boat?

One thing to note is the conditions on the duck license (not firearms law but still conditions that need to be followed to legally hunt gamebirds) is that the boat can't be under power while hunting. This also applies to land based motor vehicles.

Originally Posted by MassiveAttack

One thing to note is the conditions on the duck license (not firearms law but still conditions that need to be followed to legally hunt gamebirds) is that the boat can't be under power while hunting. This also applies to land based motor vehicles.

What about shooting from choppers?

Hunting on DOC land this is what it states
No firearm shall be discharged:
in the vicinity of huts, tracks, campsites, road-ends or other public places
within 500 m of a Great Walk hut or track
in a manner that endangers, frightens or annoys members of the public
in a manner that endangers any property.

Plus obeying anything in the firearm act. Is 50m deemed to be in the "vicinity... more than likely. Is 500m deemed in the 'vicinity"...unlikely but i suppose it depends where and who

Originally Posted by LOC

what are the rules with shooting from boats? is it just the same as above? i can't see anything in the firearms code nor anywhere else

A year or 3 back i have seen a condition of shooting in a boat where it was stated that you could only hold/discharge a loaded gun when the boat was at anchor only,not drifting, not aloud to be under motor/power. this was on a permit i had from the waikato DoC.


Just found this http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8711...-duck-shooters

i while ago i watched an episode of Outdoors with Geoff where they went fishing and shot a few clays off the side of the boat. with a voiceover he said clearly that you are allowed to shoot firearms from boats. i wonder where he got this info from

If I recall correctly, P&O were advertising clay bird shoots off the stern of some of their boats - for paying customers, some years ago.
Probably way out to sea and under power, in international waters.

I did some clay bird shooting from a charter launch on Lake Taupo a few years ago. The police arms code (not the law, I know) says having a loaded firearm in a vehicle is illegal. I'm sure the police wish it was, but not sure what they'd charge you with if you were found in that situation.

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The restriction on loaded firearms in vehicles, only applies to motor vehicles on roads, not on water.


http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regul...DLM303642.html

Loaded firearm also includes any loaded magazines. Strange you can have ammo rolling round the footwell but not in a mag

Originally Posted by 223nut

Loaded firearm also includes any loaded magazines. Strange you can have ammo rolling round the footwell but not in a mag

That is viewed as internal magazines by many. It hasn't been interpreted by a NZ court yet (AFAIK).

A loaded magazine, not attached to a firearm is not viewed as "Loaded" in TOETs or drills in either the military or NZ Police, or even civilian range commands. So how could it be interpreted otherwise?

Originally Posted by Koshogi

That is viewed as internal magazines by many. It hasn't been interpreted by a NZ court yet (AFAIK).

A loaded magazine, not attached to a firearm is not viewed as "Loaded" in TOETs or drills in either the military or NZ Police, or even civilian range commands. So how could it be interpreted otherwise?

Test it for us, because I don't want to

Originally Posted by Jexla

Test it for us, because I don't want to

Just waiting on the opportunity.

Originally Posted by Koshogi

That is viewed as internal magazines by many. It hasn't been interpreted by a NZ court yet (AFAIK).

A loaded magazine, not attached to a firearm is not viewed as "Loaded" in TOETs or drills in either the military or NZ Police, or even civilian range commands. So how could it be interpreted otherwise?

Wasn't this the prob with the Auck gun store owner who stopped a machete cutting him up by having a loaded mag ready to go? Strange law but at least he survived.