Thread: Longrange Proficiency test

Nah, it is not for me to decide the price or what you will use the money for.

However, if you will adher to the rules and do something for your own good I can support with the medals/ stickers.
There are always volunteers doing a fair share of hauling for LR shooters, but they tend to be the same people. If one cannot contribute with manpower, providing money so services can be bought will work just as well.

It can be for anything from range lease, club ammo for youngster recruitment or feeding the shooters at a get-together. Not for me to decide, but I won't support an effort to fill one's own pocket - the club coffer or similar is ok.

It is an awesome idea Norway - it would be great for a forum get together event.

So its basically a quick coldbore shot at 500m plus , and although it looks like a lot of time , as Norway & Gillie have said its a good indicator of how well you can use your gear quickly , a lot of people will fail this , until they get use to their rifle / scope etc .
A lot of shooters NEED a lot more time than 1 minute to sort their S&%t out .

Norway , whats the bipod you are seen using , it looks a bit like a Sako TRG but with different mounting ?

Cheers Chris

Originally Posted by ChrisF

its a good indicator of how well you can use your gear quickly , a lot of people will fail this , until they get use to their rifle / scope etc .
A lot of shooters NEED a lot more time than 1 minute to sort their S&%t out .

Norway , whats the bipod you are seen using , it looks a bit like a Sako TRG but with different mounting ?

Cheers Chris

I guess that's the point of the exercise, simulating a real life hunting situation.
The bipod's an Atlas. I got one after researching atlas vs harris. Glad I did.

Not the bipod Chris is talking about. Looks a very nice bipod - PRS was the brand? I suspect it would be cheaper than the TRD bipod as well. Pity i don't have a spigot mount on my sako.

Originally Posted by Gillie

Not the bipod Chris is talking about. Looks a very nice bipod - PRS was the brand? I suspect it would be cheaper than the TRD bipod as well. Pity i don't have a spigot mount on my sako.

My bad. Must have been remembering the wrong video.

Yes , you see Norway using 3 different rifles and bipods ,
On the Blaser , it looks like a different knock off , of the Sako TRG bipods ( thats the one I am asking about ) .
On the rifle in a chassis , its a Atlas
On the Steyr , its a allot unit made for/by them .

For those not familar with the Sako TRG-22/42 bipods , they are steel , and mount into the alloy chassis on the TRG rifles , the main point on them , is they are low C of G design , ie the rifle normally sits on top of the bipod in most designs , ie the Harris & the Parker Hale / AI type , where as on the Sako , it mounts lower , or below the pivot point .

This makes a very stable platform to fire from , and very hard for the rifle to say tip over , the down side is they need , much longer legs than the normal design , and are heavier etc .

Also any one looking at the Sako TRG bipods , needs to know that over the years they have changed the design , and for me the new ones are NOT as good .
The design change , is the angle of the legs has changed , from basically wide , to a more narrower foot placement , this change is not GOOD for the bipod , But was done so they could use a rail mount for forward mounted Night Vision devices , so the new change has made the bipod poorer in terms of stability .

pics below show a AI/Parker Hale type & a Sako TRG-22/42 bipod ( older version , ie wide legs ) .

In short , in most normal bipod designs , the rifle sits on TOP of the bipod , in the Sako one the rifle sits lower down inside the bipod .

Originally Posted by Gillie

It is an awesome idea Norway - it would be great for a forum get together event.

I'll let you know when I have the english versions. You'll get a buch for free and you can corporate them into your own event or whatever just as long as you use them to bring in EXTRA money and have a plan for their use. The medal thing was agonizingly slow, mostly due to silly companies dealing them. I designed a 3D pvc patch (without my logo) you can put on your jacket/ backpack or whatever. For now, only the highest valour (they are expensive to give away) but if this catches on we can surely make all valours.

As many have understood , this exercise is a "test of how familier they are with their gear" and "a good indicator of how well you can use your gear quickly , a lot of people will fail this , until they get use to their rifle / scope etc". The effort has been finding the right balance between accessible/ ease of administration/ difficult but not excluding/ safe also for beginners.

I consider the rules MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS but there will be no recognition of added difficulty such as starting behind a firing line etc - that will be personal satisfaction only.
1 target, 1 minute, 1 shot. Distance is known, it is your first shot at that target, rifle butt on the ground, scope set to normal zero and you have 60 seconds from "start!" to shot a target of approved size.
Make any allowance you would like to do to suit your own style of shooting as long as it inside the rules, but if this turns into an elitist blowhard prick-thing you are hardly complying with the essensce of the LR Proficiency Test.

Do the test yourself, shoot it with a friend, shoot it under a club banner - doesn't matter. Make any allowance you would like to do to suit your own style of shooting.

Who else has tried it?
Go give it a go, I think one minute is heaps, if you need longer than that two sort your shit out you must really struggle two full the freezer


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Don't really have a range i can set up steel at 500( i did but they got pulled out incase muppets shot the pines) so usually just shoot at rocks on public land.

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Originally Posted by Norway

I'll let you know when I have the english versions. You'll get a buch for free and you can corporate them into your own event or whatever just as long as you use them to bring in EXTRA money and have a plan for their use.

I would suggest there are others on the forum that would benefit more from them than i would @Norway. My own centrefire target set up is just about complete. I realised long ago that if i expected competitors to pay for the target setup i would have to increase the entry fees to a point it would exclude the people i wanted to come along and enjoy it. We accept that because we really enjoy running shoots, setting challenges for others and seeing them succeed at them (our definition of succeed is the competitor learning something and/or gaining confidence).

Originally Posted by BRADS

Go give it a go, I think one minute is heaps, if you need longer than that two sort your shit out you must really struggle two full the freezer

With this type of talk it is a pity you can't make it to Rotorua, BRADS.

Another slo-go at the test

Another go.

Nice shooting Norway. You've set the bar high now. How long do you keep the sticker on the gun before you have to repeat the shot or remove it?