Thread: New range laws and shooting on unregistered ranges

Originally Posted by chindit

Just spent around 4 hours filling out the discussion document for public consultation. Not much time left to get yours in. Cant help feeling I am wasting my time, but I live in hope that some sense will prevail

Agreed.. the questionnaire was more about the shape the regulation will take rather than the need for the regulation in the first place.

Originally Posted by LBD

Agreed.. the questionnaire was more about the shape the regulation will take rather than the need for the regulation in the first place.

That's because it's just ticking the consultation box. They aren't interested in the response as the decision has already been made

Morons. Doesnt seem to include the junior shooters (clay bird) like my good mate Ben that need a couple of years of competition before representing NZ
Cancel culture and political correctness over-ride some of the old methods where responsible firearms training was a valued thing.
Oops sorry forgot we are roped in with nutters and crims but are low hanging fruit.
As a modern day risk assessment would ultimately shoe, how for you eliminate the risk, remove all firearms.
Just a stepping stone in the ultimate directive.
Conspiracy theory would also suggest the govt wouldn't want the public having a means to get snarky if they get a bit of inspiration from the book 1984

Originally Posted by csmiffy

Morons. Doesnt seem to include the junior shooters (clay bird) like my good mate Ben that need a couple of years of competition before representing NZ
Cancel culture and political correctness over-ride some of the old methods where responsible firearms training was a valued thing.
Oops sorry forgot we are roped in with nutters and crims but are low hanging fruit.
As a modern day risk assessment would ultimately shoe, how for you eliminate the risk, remove all firearms.
Just a stepping stone in the ultimate directive.
Conspiracy theory would also suggest the govt wouldn't want the public having a means to get snarky if they get a bit of inspiration from the book 1984

Unfortunately this will end the school clay shooting and small bore rifle competitions which are the the feeders of our top national and international teams.
It will also put an end to junior class NZDA type competition and restrict HUNTS courses to the over 16 who have a license.

Originally Posted by csmiffy

Morons. Doesnt seem to include the junior shooters (clay bird) like my good mate Ben that need a couple of years of competition before representing NZ
Cancel culture and political correctness over-ride some of the old methods where responsible firearms training was a valued thing.
Oops sorry forgot we are roped in with nutters and crims but are low hanging fruit.
As a modern day risk assessment would ultimately shoe, how for you eliminate the risk, remove all firearms.
Just a stepping stone in the ultimate directive.
Conspiracy theory would also suggest the govt wouldn't want the public having a means to get snarky if they get a bit of inspiration from the book 1984

Unfortunately this will end the school clay shooting and small bore rifle competitions which are the the feeders of our top national and international teams.
It will also put an end to junior class NZDA type competitions including local club family xmas shoots that have a junior class and restrict HUNTS courses to the over 16 who have a license.

If the same approach was applied to other sports there'd be no rugby, no motorsport, cycling would be heavily restricted.

yip make it law it has to apply to rugby....and golf.

One to keep an eye on.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dai...uel-over-noise

Originally Posted by Ned

One to keep an eye on.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/taranaki-dai...uel-over-noise

Phillips must be planning a subdivision

western springs in dorkland was home to motorsport and outdoor concerts, then it got built up etc..........

There are multiple pieces of legislation, regulation and mandatory design manual that cover what we will be able to do when shooting at inanimate objects!

The Arms Legislation Act 2020 is now law and this Act defines what activities are defined as shooting clubs and shooting ranges. This has been covered in some of the posts above

The Police have prepared a new Shooting Range Design Manual (Draft version released prior to the pending new regulations on the 2020 Act), which has the following paragraph:

"10.1 Sighting-in is a shooting activity and can be conducted on a certified range (provided it complies with that range’s standing orders). Areas set up for and routinely used by the public for sighting-in will need to be certified as a range. However, sighting-in that is conducted as an ad-hoc or occasional shooting activity does not require the use of a certified range, if it can be carried out safely, whether on private or public land, for example:
a. it is done by an individual or a small group of individuals (but not a shooting club); and
b. they are doing sighting-in as an ad-hoc or occasional activity (such as, prior to a hunting trip, or pre-duck shooting season); and
c. the public (or a club) do not access and use that area for sighting-in (for example, there are no established targets, or other indications that the area is used for shooting activities)."


The Police have issued a consultation document for the new regulations that will cover ranges and it does not say any more than the design manual on this point, however when the new regulations do come out (supposed to be in December this yr), they could well have some additional rules and requirements.

Wont really know where we stand until the new regulations come out at the end of this yr

Originally Posted by NZVarminter

There are multiple pieces of legislation, regulation and mandatory design manual that cover what we will be able to do when shooting at inanimate objects!

The Arms Legislation Act 2020 is now law and this Act defines what activities are defined as shooting clubs and shooting ranges. This has been covered in some of the posts above

The Police have prepared a new Shooting Range Design Manual (Draft version released prior to the pending new regulations on the 2020 Act), which has the following paragraph:

"10.1 Sighting-in is a shooting activity and can be conducted on a certified range (provided it complies with that range’s standing orders). Areas set up for and routinely used by the public for sighting-in will need to be certified as a range. However, sighting-in that is conducted as an ad-hoc or occasional shooting activity does not require the use of a certified range, if it can be carried out safely, whether on private or public land, for example:
a. it is done by an individual or a small group of individuals (but not a shooting club); and
b. they are doing sighting-in as an ad-hoc or occasional activity (such as, prior to a hunting trip, or pre-duck shooting season); and
c. the public (or a club) do not access and use that area for sighting-in (for example, there are no established targets, or other indications that the area is used for shooting activities)."


The Police have issued a consultation document for the new regulations that will cover ranges and it does not say any more than the design manual on this point, however when the new regulations do come out (supposed to be in December this yr), they could well have some additional rules and requirements.

Wont really know where we stand until the new regulations come out at the end of this yr

Thank you for that summary, very informative.

At the moment looking at 10.1 a,b and c above it seems like heading to my local friendly farmers paddock and sighting in will not be changed.
Probably the only good bit of the legislation.