Thread: NZDA requires FAL number

No they are a registered club, individual branches are also supposed to have registered as clubs as well and then if they have their own range register that separately or if they shoot on one they don't operate be approved users on that range

Surely to be a member of a well recognized organization like the NZDA which will be 75yrs old soon is a good thing. If by law they require to note FAL numbers of its members so be it. You may find one day that being a member of a club like this is part of showing you are responsible.

Originally Posted by trooper90

Surely to be a member of a well recognized organization like the NZDA which will be 75yrs old soon is a good thing.

That's quite coincidental the Nelson Branche's 75th birthday is celebrated tonight after our AGM




Even had commemorative knives made for the occasion

On a slight tangent does anyone have an update on the number of clubs not just deerstalkers that have completed the registration process? At the beginning of the month I believe it was only 27 in total excluding PNZ ones

Originally Posted by trooper90

Surely to be a member of a well recognized organization like the NZDA which will be 75yrs old soon is a good thing. If by law they require to note FAL numbers of its members so be it. You may find one day that being a member of a club like this is part of showing you are responsible.

It led to to massive increase/uptake in Australia of shooting/hunting clubs in the wake of Port Arthur. Not quite what the powers that be were expecting....

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Originally Posted by tiroahunta

It led to to massive increase/uptake in Australia of shooting/hunting clubs in the wake of Port Arthur. Not quite what the powers that be were expecting....

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And that's a silver lining for here. It is driving license holder into (hopefully) larger and stronger and better organised representative shooting clubs and organisations. That strengthens representation and solidarity.

For what its worth i let my NZDA membership lapse after the stance they took over the terrorist attack. I have since rejoined this year . I think it is better to be part of than not. Its also easier to change something from the inside rather than the outside.

I see the Taupo range has gone from $5 to $20 for non members. Maybe a push to get to get more people to join. I can see more people going out to DoC land or forestry to site their rifles in though.

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

I see the Taupo range has gone from $5 to $20 for non members. Maybe a push to get to get more people to join. I can see more people going out to DoC land or forestry to site their rifles in though.

Compared with the cost of maintaining let alone upgrading the range $20 bucks is dirt cheap. Consider joining. Using Forestry or DoC land without permission is illegal and consequences of getting caught may be severe. Your rifle, your liscence and your choice.
GPM.

Originally Posted by grandpamac

Compared with the cost of maintaining let alone upgrading the range $20 bucks is dirt cheap. Consider joining. Using Forestry or DoC land without permission is illegal and consequences of getting caught may be severe. Your rifle, your liscence and your choice.
GPM.

Very hard to police DoC land I’m afraid.

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

Very hard to police DoC land I’m afraid.

...even so, @grandpamac is right: your rifle, your license, your choice.

Originally Posted by Nickoli

...even so, @grandpamac is right: your rifle, your license, your choice.

If I want to use the range I have no problem with paying $20, it’s a fantastic Rifle range. But I’m sure there will be a lot that won’t.

Out of curiosity I had a look through my hunting permit and couldn’t find anywhere that says you can’t sight your rifle in, as long as you’re not at a road end or near a hut or endangering people or property. No different to shooting at a deer really.

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

Very hard to police DoC land I’m afraid.

Greetings,
This may be true but remember that the Christchurch murderer belonged to a small group of people that used to shoot on an unofficial range in the pines. The law requiring clubs and ranges to be approved was to counter this and was passed in Parliament by most parties including National. It is not DoC but the Police that will be conducting any enforcement. I don't know how vigilant they will be and don't intend to find out. The non shooting public is not stupid and know the law so the chances of being reported are higher than you would expect.
There is a thing called a Risk Matrix which develops a risk rating based on the likelihood of an event occurring and the consequences of the event. The likelihood of being caught may be low but the consequences could be high, so a moderate risk. I belong to one of the NZDA branches in Hawkes Bay which does not have a range. There is another local 100 metre range that I used which is probably now closed. There is also a dedicated 300, 600 and 1000 yard full bore range that I shoot on and I have a casual sighting in range at home which I use sparingly. Outside that I drive to the Jack Dillon Range (Taupo NZDA) where I am a member. The round trip is a little over 300 km. I realise you may be being hypothetical but just in case please go along to Taupo NZDA and join up. They will welcome you and introduce you to 4 position shooting, metallic silhouette and running boar. The last of those is on this Sunday 10:00AM.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

Very hard to police DoC land I’m afraid.

True, but why knowingly do something illegal ? These days , more than ever, it behoves we hunters to do the proper, responsible, and legal thing. We don't need society and the media continually demonising us because we flout the law. We should be striving to demonstrate a higher standard among the hunting / shooting community. You may very well decide to do your own thing on DOC or other lands, and may very well never be apprehended but I'm afraid you'll receive no sympathy from me if caught and dealt with harshly. I know under these new regs there will be both more cost and inconvenience involved but we can't change the events that caused this. What we have is a new reality and we have to live with it.
My 2c worth anyway.